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Burton EST bindings (first bindings ever)

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#1 ·
Hello all

I just bought a Burton 2012 Hero 155cm board and i have Rome Libertine boots (44,5 cm).
Now i'm looking for Bindings that are matching with the EST system.

I'm looking at the Burton Mission & Burton Custom.

I'm a low-weight person, and in the shop they advice me because of that to go for the Custom bindings, but if i look at some pictures i noticed the Missions are a bit stronger? they look stronger...


Hopefully someone can help me!

Thanks!
Marijn
 
#2 ·
I just bought a Burton 2012 Hero 155cm board and i have Rome Libertine boots (44,5 cm).
Now i'm looking for Bindings that are matching with the EST system.

I'm looking at the Burton Mission & Burton Custom.
All Burton bindings should be similar in "strength" baseplates are guaranteed for life, I've heard of issues with the highback on the Diodes but you're not looking at those, and I'd also expect the ratchets and ladders to be better on the more expensive bindings.

That said: The missions have a feel rating of 6, the customs have a feel rating of 4, the board you bought has a feel rating of 3 I'm pretty sure, so the customs would probably be a much better match.

Hope this helps!
 
#9 ·
Cartels are a solid, mid-stiff binding that will be great all over the mountain, whether that's in the park or riding around off-piste/groomers. It's one of Burton's best selling bindings for a reason.

They will be more responsive than both the Customs and the Missions, due to being a stiffer binding, overall.

You'll be fine, don't worry.

I have no idea where this theory that "matching" board and binding ratings came from. It's a huge, huge generalization, and shouldn't be used.

Both the Customs and Missions are solid bindings as well, just not as stiff/responsive as the Force. They'll both be "strong", so don't worry about that. The main differences between the two is that the Custom is a basic, no-frills binding whereas the Mission is a bit more responsive, and has some added tech featues like the Asym highback and an Asym ankle strap (on the Restricted models) and in the snowboard industry, you pay for the added tech.
 
#32 ·
Actually I've got a saved eBay search for C60's (trying to find a specific pair) and when I saw this come up I couldn't resist. She's got $500 bindings on a $500 board...

But hey, to each their own I guess?!? :dunno:

Now to go install all terrain mudder tires on my lowered celica to drive it on ice... :D
Now you're getting it...

Glad that my "educating" here is actually working. :D
 
#34 · (Edited)
Now you're getting it...

Glad that my "educating" here is actually working. :D
I still think it's assinine to have the stiffest binding the company makes for men, on a small girls board. Sure there's nothing "wrong" with it and of course you can do it.

But there's also nothing wrong with compact car owners cutting their springs but retaining stock shocks/struts. Sure it's personal preference but it's far from ideal.

Friends don't let friends put soft bindings on a stiff board. :D


:thumbsup: Haha.
It wasn't that funny. :cheeky4: What's wrong with eBay?
 
#15 ·
You won't be able to tell a difference between the bindings, unless you rode them back-to-back-to-back and even then, I don't think you'd notice anything just due to you being a newer rider.

Any of those bindings will be awesome for you, and they'll all last a few seasons as well. It just comes down to what you personally want to get and how much you want to spend.

You can't go wrong with any 3 of those bindings, but I think you'll really like the Cartels. Like I said, they're not one of Burton's best selling bindings for no reason.

Have fun!
 
#16 ·
I'd be pretty confident that any est binder you choose will do the job. As for color, in my experience Burton's colors tend to be pretty consistent within a model year.

And just a note: this year's Missions have the high back from last year's Cartels. The two bindings are pretty similar, with the Cartels having slightly upgraded straps and buckles, and the Missions being a hair softer.

Also, remember that most other binding companies have adapter plates that allow for "normal" disk bindings to interface with the Burton ICS deal.
 
#17 ·
Maybe I'm talking about a few yrs ago tech, but I thought mission and cartel had a superstrap and the custom had some basic ankle strap? Basically, the Mission and Cartel are more comfortable compared to the Custom. And based on the OPs experience and what Alkasqualik said, they will all feel the same unless you ride them back to back and compare.

I'm sure you'll have fun on the snow with any of those bindings you choose.
 
#18 ·
Custom does have a different strap it's called the Lush strap. I haven't ridden it, but I know the superstrap and asym superstrap on the missions/malavitas and cartels are pretty darn comfy.

Also, Alka is right, you can make any binding work on your board (I do prefer to be on the stiffer side than the softer side though), it's preference. There's no ideal matching.

I say missions/cartels. The hero you have has squeezebox so it can't be softer than the hero I demo'd in 2011 and the bindings on those were the Missions which, that year were pretty stiff...rode great.

Not to be a cynic, but you'll also be able to sell those more easily than the customon the ebays or craigslists or right here, if you want different bindings.
 
#23 ·
Don't feel bad koyota - your post was correct. You didn't say anything was est and I agree with your rec. the regional loves are the best cartel to get right now. The best part is they ride the same as est's, are cheaper and can be used on non-burton boards!
 
#37 ·
Well, the feel good is the equivalent of the custom, and I'm sure it'd be ok in your books if someone put c60's on a custom, right? Anyways, you can't make any conclusions from that listing because 1) maybe the seller just put the bindings on there to help the sale 2) maybe the girl has ankle problems and needs the stiffest bindings she can find 3) maybe the girl got cheated on by the bf and she rode his c60's to trash them a bit and then to sell them 4) maybe she's into bordercross
 
#38 ·
Or:

5) She bought a board and then asked some sales guy what the best bindings were, and he sold her those...

And I wouldn't bother putting C60's on a Custom. The Custom X sure but seems like overkill for the plain jane custom. Just so nobody gets upity sure they'll WORK, and it's all personal preference. But I wouldn't do it.
 
#41 ·
I have the cartels now and indeed, they are stiff! thinking about sending them back and get the customs..
I also received my Burton Hero and it's a flexible board so it's maybe not so logical to put the stiffy cartels on it... (like you guys said)

My rome boots (libertines) are also loose/flexibe so it's stupid, right?
 
#46 ·
Hm, i'm reading some comments from other guys/shops and i'm afraid they ARE too stiff for the board and i don't get 100% out of it with the cartels..
I'm thinking to order the customs, because i have only 2 weeks to send the Cartels back.. difficult! aaaa
 
#47 ·
Those cartels are sick do it all bindings. Any shortcoming they have is surely rider induced.

You should send them back for sure.:thumbsdown:

Unless you are on the pro level, but then you wouldn't be considering the advice of a bunch of keyboard jockeys then would you.
 
#50 ·
Hey all,
I went 3 days to Val Thorens with my new complete board, and i love it.
the only thing is i have only a few rachets to click on the straps, so they are OK but i really have to make sure that they are tight enough.

I found out turning was not so easy, i really have to be a bit agressive (because my low weight i think).
What can i do about that? My stance is in the middle of the board & the angles are the standard 15 & 9.

Thanks!
 
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