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Old 11-13-2012, 08:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Union Atlas heel cushion. Is this how its supposed to be?

I ordered a set of Union Atlas bindings to try with my Never Summer Heritage. I mounted them up and adjusted everything. After strapping in my heels felt like they were sagging. The heel cushion, which is hollowed out, collapses all the way to the top sheet leaving me with a feeling of leaning back when I am standing on flat ground. Is this what the cushion is designed to do? Has anyone else noticed this or experienced problems while riding? I don't understand why Union wouldn't just fill the entire heel area with EVA to make it nice and solid. Maybe Nose Dradamous can answer my questions. Sorry the pictures are so crappy. Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've checked them out in person and can confirm that is how they look and are designed. Haven't ridden them but from what you're describing does not sound like something worth compensating for or adjusting to.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, I really wanted to be happy with the Atlas but I'm not so far. I can't imagine why they would hollow out the underside of the heel cushion. My only guess is weight saving and it seems crazy to me to compromise stability and comfort to save a few grams at most.
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Now you have a point of reference for the debates and "education" last week.

Edit: Forgot to mention, you're wrong, that's a feature and how dare you question Union design

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Can you just put something in there to keep it up?
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I could stuff a bunch of Viagra under there?
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I could stuff a bunch of Viagra under there?
But that would only last a few hours and you'll have to call a doctor after 4.

Cialis would last you the whole weekend.
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I ordered a set of Union Atlas bindings to try with my Never Summer Heritage. I mounted them up and adjusted everything. After strapping in my heels felt like they were sagging. The heel cushion, which is hollowed out, collapses all the way to the top sheet leaving me with a feeling of leaning back when I am standing on flat ground. Is this what the cushion is designed to do? Has anyone else noticed this or experienced problems while riding? I don't understand why Union wouldn't just fill the entire heel area with EVA to make it nice and solid. Maybe Nose Dradamous can answer my questions. Sorry the pictures are so crappy. Thanks in advance.
This is my first post, and the first snowboarding forum I've ever signed up to. Hopefully I can answer any questions pertaining to Union. For the record, I am one of the founders of Union and have been snowboarding for 27 years. That just made me feel very old...... I'm not trying to claim, or try to be the authority of all things snowboarding. I just want everybody to know that I'm not some intern working at C3, and know a thing or two about snowboard bindings.


Addressing your question - Yes, they are designed this way for added cushion in the heel area. I think you are over-analyzing it a bit (no offense). Just go ride the bindings, and I assure you won't have any issues with the binding being "too soft" in the heel area.

Travis Rice says that the Atlas is the best binding he's ever ridden. That's the honest truth. If anybody in this forum knows Travis, you know he's a man of his word, and has extremely high standards for gear. Probably 80% of our team rides the Atlas base and none of them have ever had any issues with EVA.

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why don't you address your idiot rep Johan and his grade-school marketing techniques on this board.



why don't you innovate your toe straps to keep up with the rest of the snowboarding industry?
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why don't you innovate your toe straps to keep up with the rest of the snowboarding industry?
Does not compute.
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