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Here's the thread about it, I've also read it on some reviews on the net:

http://www.snowboardingforum.com/bin...-bindings.html

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So it's by design. Sorry, when I hear heel lift, it's associated to boots, not the bindings. Doesn't seem like an issue to be concerned about especially with actual users testimonies. I used Cartels back in 2009 and 2010 and loved them. But, they were on the 3d and 4-hole.

Any of those bindings are going to be great for you especially for you to learn and progress. Remember, the binding isn't going to make you a better rider and everybody is going to have their own opinion.

If a toe strap breaks down, isn't it under warranty?

I wouldn't be concerned about paint chips on a binding. Your board will sustain more damage than your bindings, especially since you're not riding park.
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I think I'm leaning more towards the K2 company at the moment. Hopefully I'll be able to get out and have a look at some at the weekend, unfortunately I'm not gonna get the chance to try before I buy which is why want to do as much research and get as much feedback as possible.

I've been using a 2001 Burton Bullet with same age Burton missions upto now som hopefully anything will be an improvement!

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Any feedback on the new Rome Arsenals? I have an older pair that are great, but I know they messed with the names for a few seasons (390s became the new Arsenals, etc)....
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K2 Company may be a good option for you. Very comparable to the others, good fit, fairly stiff, canted. Don't let people talk you away from K2, they make solid stuff, even if they are accused of being a SKI company! They have been in the game much longer than most board companies. I am old enough to have owned a original Gyrator, so I know from whence I speak.
My experience has been mixed with K2. My GF has been riding a mid-range board of theirs for a few years now and it's been a great beginner board. I almost bought a Zero a couple years ago and have heard nothing but good things from them.

Her K2 bindings however were not up to the quality of the board. The ratchets had more plastic in them and they started slipping early. Made her very frustrated. She switched over to Burtons this year and loves them.
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Had the rome 390 boss for a day and they fit my thirtytwo binary boa boots really bad. Returned them for the flux dmcc lights, used them yesterday and couldn't be happier.
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I switched from 390 to cartel reflex (this coming from someone who usually avoids burton).

The 390 were pretty darned heavy and the ratchets handles stuck out so far, they'd sometimes get loosened by my pant leg or whatever else touched them. The plastic on mine was brittle and, on their first day, a tooth broke out of the forward lean ladders, rendering the entire flad useless.

At 175 lbs, I didn't feel any heel lift on the reflex...but I wasn't paying any attention to that, either (guess now I will). They felt good to me. The ratchets are perfect (no protrusions) and the bindings are super light.

btw, you can get cartels without reflex...at least, I know some 2011 cartel came without reflex
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Hey everyone,

Just some general comments here to help out anyone interested.

The two sizes of bindings does often cause some confusion. For reference, the S/M size is good up to about a size 9. Anything bigger than that, and we recommend going with the L/XL.

There are multiple adjustments that will affect the fit so it's important to go through the setup instructions. We find that often times a simple change of toe strap location makes a world of difference. If you want a binding that is immediately good to go out of the box, 390's or Targas are probably not for you. Check out a pair of Mobs instead.

Personally I love sitting down with a couple beers, watching some snowboard flicks, and setting up my board and bindings for the season. It's not for everyone.

We've noticed some boots are especially wider than others that we get asked about frequently - 32 Lashed, some DCs, etc. - especially older models.

Additionally, if the boots use any sort of shrinkage tech this seems to cause problems as well. A lot of the time the actual distance from toe to heel is reduced, but not the actual width of the boot. So if you are on the edge, say a 9.5 shrinkage boot, it probably still has the width of a 10.5, so you should use a L/XL binding.

Obviously if there are any specific questions the best way to get in touch is to email us. We'll always get back to you ASAP.

In terms of paint chipping comments - that problem has been eliminated for '13.

As far as Arsenals go - these are a great, more affordable option compared to the 390 and Targa. They are the same as the old 390 pre-VROD baseplate. Simple baseplate design, underwrap heel hoop system, and a stiffer highback. Awesome for all-mountain and getting into the park as well. They are beefy as hell and get the job done without crushing your wallet.

Hope that helps some questions, and as always, feel free to get in touch.

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As far as Arsenals go - these are a great, more affordable option compared to the 390 and Targa. They are the same as the old 390 pre-VROD baseplate. Simple baseplate design, underwrap heel hoop system, and a stiffer highback. Awesome for all-mountain and getting into the park as well. They are beefy as hell and get the job done without crushing your wallet.

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I have a pair of the Arsenals from last season (11/12), I've got just a couple days on them so far but I'd recomend them to anyone looking for a solid all mtn binding. I like them a lot better than my old Rides from a few yrs back. I've a 9.5 boot and the L/XL fits em perfectly. Not too stiff not too flexy and they won't cost you an arm and a leg.
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Pretty cool the Rome boys chimed in, and spoke about their product...... completely without bashing the others!

Props guys!

I have contacted them before, and they will respond to you very quickly
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