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Supra · 11-20-2012, 01:36 AM

Get the 2014's!
They are not beta in any way. They have the lighter malavita & genesis baseplate (which is a significant weight savings btw regardless of what others say), and genesis straps. There's no new tech in there that may or may not work. They are essentially a pair of genesis with a cartel highback.

I have a pair and they are amazing. I'm looking forward to getting a pair of genesis in 2 weeks and actually seeing what difference the genesis highback has on the ride.

hktrdr · 11-20-2012, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra

Get the 2014's!
They are not beta in any way. They have the lighter malavita & genesis baseplate (which is a significant weight savings btw regardless of what others say), and genesis straps. There's no new tech in there that may or may not work. They are essentially a pair of genesis with a cartel highback.

I have a pair and they are amazing. I'm looking forward to getting a pair of genesis in 2 weeks and actually seeing what difference the genesis highback has on the ride.

Do tell, what do you consider a 'significant' weight saving?

Supra · 11-20-2012, 03:54 AM

It's not really scientific but holding both in my hands, the 2014 is lighter. Do you have 2014's in your shop? (you're a shop kid, right?)

Would you say the Genesis are lighter than the 2013 cartels?

hktrdr · 11-20-2012, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra

It's not really scientific but holding both in my hands, the 2014 is lighter. Do you have 2014's in your shop? (you're a shop kid, right?)

Would you say the Genesis are lighter than the 2013 cartels?

Is it lighter? Sure. Is it significant? No way (especially considering the combined weight of bindings and board).

And no, I am not a shop kid (unless you consider being an investor in a number of shops a 'shop kid').

Supra · 11-20-2012, 05:28 AM

Well, now it's all semantics isn't it?

Just wondering if any of your shops have the 2014's? Have you fondled them?

eli783 · 11-20-2012, 10:18 AM

Dude my shop only got 3 new bindings this yr from burton, so no way in the world will I be able to check out the bindings first hand. A slightly lighter binding would be nice since this trs I bought is already a tad towards the heavy side

eli783 · 11-20-2012, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra

It's not really scientific but holding both in my hands, the 2014 is lighter. Do you have 2014's in your shop? (you're a shop kid, right?)

Would you say the Genesis are lighter than the 2013 cartels?

On the burton site, it says that this years cartels base is made of the same materials as the genesis.

Supra · 11-20-2012, 03:47 PM

Yeah, the cartel, malavita & genesis baseplates are made from the same material but the stiffness & weight is a bit different. I would guess the mold would have an effect.
Anyways, that comment about fondling them was directed at you, Eli, it was at the other guy who thinks he knows more.

For the record, the reg cartel is 820 grams and the ltd is 760g. So, 60g saving per binding. The genesis is 758g btw.

So anyways, Eli, I have the 2014 in my hands as I type this, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that these are so,so, so sick!

eli783 · 11-20-2012, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra

Yeah, the cartel, malavita & genesis baseplates are made from the same material but the stiffness & weight is a bit different. I would guess the mold would have an effect.
Anyways, that comment about fondling them was directed at you, Eli, it was at the other guy who thinks he knows more.

For the record, the reg cartel is 820 grams and the ltd is 760g. So, 60g saving per binding. The genesis is 758g btw.

So anyways, Eli, I have the 2014 in my hands as I type this, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that these are so,so, so sick!

thanks brah Im going to cop a pair tomorrow. Thanks for the advice

eli783 · 11-26-2012, 10:24 PM

Just got these in today and already fell in love with the reactstrap

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11-20-2012, 01:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Supra Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 413	Get the 2014's! They are not beta in any way. They have the lighter malavita & genesis baseplate (which is a significant weight savings btw regardless of what others say), and genesis straps. There's no new tech in there that may or may not work. They are essentially a pair of genesis with a cartel highback. I have a pair and they are amazing. I'm looking forward to getting a pair of genesis in 2 weeks and actually seeing what difference the genesis highback has on the ride.

11-20-2012, 03:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
Supra Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 413	It's not really scientific but holding both in my hands, the 2014 is lighter. Do you have 2014's in your shop? (you're a shop kid, right?) Would you say the Genesis are lighter than the 2013 cartels?

11-20-2012, 05:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
Supra Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 413	Well, now it's all semantics isn't it? Just wondering if any of your shops have the 2014's? Have you fondled them?

11-20-2012, 10:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
eli783 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 178	Dude my shop only got 3 new bindings this yr from burton, so no way in the world will I be able to check out the bindings first hand. A slightly lighter binding would be nice since this trs I bought is already a tad towards the heavy side

11-20-2012, 03:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
Supra Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 413	Yeah, the cartel, malavita & genesis baseplates are made from the same material but the stiffness & weight is a bit different. I would guess the mold would have an effect. Anyways, that comment about fondling them was directed at you, Eli, it was at the other guy who thinks he knows more. For the record, the reg cartel is 820 grams and the ltd is 760g. So, 60g saving per binding. The genesis is 758g btw. So anyways, Eli, I have the 2014 in my hands as I type this, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that these are so,so, so sick!

11-26-2012, 10:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
eli783 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 178	Just got these in today and already fell in love with the reactstrap