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Old 11-20-2012, 10:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I purchased Burton Mission bindings with the traditional cranks on them, when tightening them down, I can tighten them down until they pop and will refuse to tighten anymore. I can feel no pressure on my foot while in the boot, however the boot is considerably snug. I would like to think I should be able to cut off the circulation if I tried hard enough.

Is this a concern with the binding? I have no read anything about this kind of issue. I am wondering if I should return them or contact Burton.
This is a flaw on Burton bindings, I had a pair that did the same thing. In addition to this i would get half way down a run and my toe cap would be laying in front of my boot cause the ratchets keep slipping under load.

Also my 9 yr old who weighs all of 60 lbs broke 2 Burton base plates in one season. It took 2 emails to Burton just to get a response. I was promised replacement parts.....which never arrived

We both have switched to Union and could not be happier.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is a flaw on Burton bindings, I had a pair that did the same thing. In addition to this i would get half way down a run and my toe cap would be laying in front of my boot cause the ratchets keep slipping under load.

Also my 9 yr old who weighs all of 60 lbs broke 2 Burton base plates in one season. It took 2 emails to Burton just to get a response. I was promised replacement parts.....which never arrived

We both have switched to Union and could not be happier.
So the ratchets can be flawed like such...
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This is a flaw on Burton bindings, I had a pair that did the same thing. In addition to this i would get half way down a run and my toe cap would be laying in front of my boot cause the ratchets keep slipping under load.

Also my 9 yr old who weighs all of 60 lbs broke 2 Burton base plates in one season. It took 2 emails to Burton just to get a response. I was promised replacement parts.....which never arrived

We both have switched to Union and could not be happier.
That's uncommon. And from the what I'm guessing you were also trying to crank them down too much and stripped the ladders causing them to pop.
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I don't follow. Isn't it the perfect scenario to be firmly binded in, without feeling strap pressure on your foot?
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't follow. Isn't it the perfect scenario to be firmly binded in, without feeling strap pressure on your foot?
Yea, I agree. I don't see what the OP is worrying about. It's like the only problem... is there is no problem.

Chandler, there are many things I don't like about Burton, and I have broken a fair number of their bindings (pretty much all bindings break if you ride them hard enough), but their ratchets are top notch and not flawed.

To me it sounds like deepcove didn't install his bindings properly (they are a lot of adjustments that might confuse a novice who doesn't know how to set things up). I'm skeptical that his 60 lbs son broke two baseplate in one season (I'm only 150 lbs, and it took me a while and lot of crashes to break my baseplates). Again, sounds like user installation error to me.

Like I said, whiel I wasn't thrilled that my Burton binding did break (one highback, one baseplate, one of my friend' heelcup), in all cases the Burton Warranty was super responsive and super eager to help us out free of charge. Burton makes some good bindings, and they make less than good bindings... I don't think you can single them out from any other company really.
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Basically, what Lonerider said. It sounds like you are a making a problem where one doesn't exist, but if you want to feel a tighter strap, just shorten the length of it..

Also, unless you have super soft boots, how would you expect to cut off your circulation? No sensible binding is going to get anywhere near that tight.

Sounds like a non-issue to me. Get them properly adjusted if you really want them tighter.
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Sounds like a non-issue to me. Get them properly adjusted if you really want them tighter.
I've adjust everything on there including rotating the highbacks

I have tried shortening and lengthening the straps to no avail.
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I've adjust everything on there including rotating the highbacks

I have tried shortening and lengthening the straps to no avail.

Shortening the straps will give you a tighter fit, until it's so tight that you can't even put your foot in. I honestly don't understand the issues you are having. You aren't supposed to be able to feel it. As long as you are tightly binded in, it's perfect.
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Yea, I agree. I don't see what the OP is worrying about. It's like the only problem... is there is no problem.

Chandler, there are many things I don't like about Burton, and I have broken a fair number of their bindings (pretty much all bindings break if you ride them hard enough), but their ratchets are top notch and not flawed.

To me it sounds like deepcove didn't install his bindings properly (they are a lot of adjustments that might confuse a novice who doesn't know how to set things up). I'm skeptical that his 60 lbs son broke two baseplate in one season (I'm only 150 lbs, and it took me a while and lot of crashes to break my baseplates). Again, sounds like user installation error to me.

Like I said, whiel I wasn't thrilled that my Burton binding did break (one highback, one baseplate, one of my friend' heelcup), in all cases the Burton Warranty was super responsive and super eager to help us out free of charge. Burton makes some good bindings, and they make less than good bindings... I don't think you can single them out from any other company really.
I had my bindings set up properly, been doing this since the mid 80's and wouldn't consider myself a novice. And yes my 9 yr old did indeed break 2 freestyle jr baseplates. Both happened in the same spot......the thin piece on the outside of the binding moulding where the toe strap is held in. The second time it happened the toe strap fell out and was lost.....which Burton refused to replace because only the base plate is life time warranty.....even though the whole reason it went missing was because of the poor quality baseplate. You wouldn't think this is a big deal but when you can't even purchase this part because any dealer you go to says Burton has not got back to them is pretty weak. I won't deny he is very hard on his equipment and rides a lot of park......he also snapped a Burton Chopper 121 the same year.....right along the side edge of the front baseplate.

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Yes I like my bindings snug and my last pair of Burtons slipped from the day I got them. Over the years I have not experienced ratchet slip with any other bindings including my older Burtons....imo their quality has declined and was stunned by their lack of customer service. This experience has made me open up my eyes to other manufacturers.
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I had my bindings set up properly, been doing this since the mid 80's and wouldn't consider myself a novice. And yes my 9 yr old did indeed break 2 freestyle jr baseplates. Both happened in the same spot......the thin piece on the outside of the binding moulding where the toe strap is held in. The second time it happened the toe strap fell out and was lost.....which Burton refused to replace because only the base plate is life time warranty.....even though the whole reason it went missing was because of the poor quality baseplate. You wouldn't think this is a big deal but when you can't even purchase this part because any dealer you go to says Burton has not got back to them is pretty weak. I won't deny he is very hard on his equipment and rides a lot of park......he also snapped a Burton Chopper 121 the same year.....right along the side edge of the front baseplate.

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Yes I like my bindings snug and my last pair of Burtons slipped from the day I got them. Over the years I have not experienced ratchet slip with any other bindings including my older Burtons....imo their quality has declined and was stunned by their lack of customer service. This experience has made me open up my eyes to other manufacturers.
Ok, now I'm starting to believe you did install them correctly. Funny, you should mention that you snapped the thin piece of the baseplate that hold the toe strap in... did it look anything like this?



That is my pair of 2005 or 2006 Burton C60 (Burton's top of the line binding). That being said, I was still able to have it replaced.

This is my pair of Burton P1, again... they mailed me a replacement in a week.


This was my friends 2007 Cartels. He tried to drop a frozen waterfall years before Xavier De La Rue did it... Burton replaced it without question


But despite all of this... at least the ratchets always worked great for me I eventually moved to Rome bindings.... and now I'm looking at Flow bindings of all things (which in my head were still the clunky things from the '90s).

I used to be a over-tightener like you, but realize I did that because a) my boots didn't fit me properly and so I was compensating by over-tightening them and the bindings as well b) I was being OCD and doing it for a stupid sense of reassurance (like a child sucking his thumb) and forced myself to stop doing it. I only started doing this in the last few year myself, so I really can't be righteous about it... but I suggest joining me in giving up your "baby pacifier" and tighten your bindings to just snug.

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