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buckeyeguy 11-26-2012 11:41 PM

Ride Bindings for a Big Guy
 
Need some advice from those who know a lot more than me...

I'm a 6'4" 235lb guy wearing size 12 ThirtyTwo STW Boa's. I started boarding a little bit ago and loved it. Now that I finally have a good feel for it, I am taking the plunge to get all my own gear this year. I just ordered a 2012-13 Never Summer SL (161) but will likely need to swap it into a similar sized (or slightly longer) Legacy since it's a mid-wide (got them confused while ordering). I wanted to get a good all-round board since I plan to vary my day up on the hill. Around here, I mostly like cruising groomers, hitting some natural kickers and will seek out powder when I get out West. But since Ohio's got nothing going on in terms of slopes, I also plan to play in the park a bit here and there just to mix it up.

My question is this...I am planning on putting some Ride bindings on the board, but am unsure on which model. Despite my interest in this year's new Flows and the advantages of step-ins in Ohio (our runs are less than 30 seconds long and you're constantly strapping in), I was talked out of them by all the seasoned vets I floated the idea past. They all pointed me in the direction of Ride bindings. So, I was curious what you guys would recommend. I was thinking of going with the Rodeo's but I'm also considering the Capo's. The Rodeo seems to be plenty of binding for my build and style of riding (plus it may be a bit softer and more forgiving for my less-experienced skill level), but I didn't know if it was too soft given my height and weight. Should I go with the Capo, which seems like a monster but is potentially more responsive? Or should I go with the Rodeo, which is more forgiving but potentially too soft?

Any thoughts you have would be welcomed. Thanks much! It's great to have a forum like this to share ideas and get feedback.

Gdog42 11-27-2012 08:07 AM

I've seen several reviews that say Ride bindings are not very durable. The most common problems are the straps and ladders coming loose easily, and the rubber material busting/popping out on the toe straps.

One of my friends has had a pair though for a few years and so far hasn't had any problems with them, so...lucky him!

Some of the best brands for bindings are Flux, Union, Burton, Salomon, and Drake.

Check those out. They are much higher quality than Ride and will definately last a lot longer!

131441 11-27-2012 08:20 AM

After reading everything and playing with them I went with Rome 390's. I'm a big guy also. 250 6'. They feel strong and my local shop backs them up as well.

JeffreyCH 11-27-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gdog42 (Post 543977)
I've seen several reviews that say Ride bindings are not very durable. The most common problems are the straps and ladders coming loose easily, and the rubber material busting/popping out on the toe straps.

One of my friends has had a pair though for a few years and so far hasn't had any problems with them, so...lucky him!

Not sure where you read those reviews, I have a pair of '08 Ride Delta's that have 60ish days on them, they still look and function like the day I pulled them out of the box. :dunno: I did hear they had a lot of problems with the toe straps on the contrabands.

Toomeyct 11-27-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyeguy (Post 543886)
Need some advice from those who know a lot more than me...

I'm a 6'4" 235lb guy wearing size 12 ThirtyTwo STW Boa's. I started boarding a little bit ago and loved it. Now that I finally have a good feel for it, I am taking the plunge to get all my own gear this year. I just ordered a 2012-13 Never Summer SL (161) but will likely need to swap it into a similar sized (or slightly longer) Legacy since it's a mid-wide (got them confused while ordering). I wanted to get a good all-round board since I plan to vary my day up on the hill. Around here, I mostly like cruising groomers, hitting some natural kickers and will seek out powder when I get out West. But since Ohio's got nothing going on in terms of slopes, I also plan to play in the park a bit here and there just to mix it up.

My question is this...I am planning on putting some Ride bindings on the board, but am unsure on which model. Despite my interest in this year's new Flows and the advantages of step-ins in Ohio (our runs are less than 30 seconds long and you're constantly strapping in), I was talked out of them by all the seasoned vets I floated the idea past. They all pointed me in the direction of Ride bindings. So, I was curious what you guys would recommend. I was thinking of going with the Rodeo's but I'm also considering the Capo's. The Rodeo seems to be plenty of binding for my build and style of riding (plus it may be a bit softer and more forgiving for my less-experienced skill level), but I didn't know if it was too soft given my height and weight. Should I go with the Capo, which seems like a monster but is potentially more responsive? Or should I go with the Rodeo, which is more forgiving but potentially too soft?

Any thoughts you have would be welcomed. Thanks much! It's great to have a forum like this to share ideas and get feedback.

Hey there,

I can chime in here because I have both of those bindings. The rodeo highback is most definitely softer than the capo high back, however I don't really notice the difference in any of the rest of the construction. The ankle strap is a little better on the capo in my opinion but the ankle strap on the rodeo is by no means bad. I have really had no problem with either binding and they both fit the boards that I have them on (Rodeo on NS Revolver and Capo on NS Heritage X). So it really comes down to what kind of riding you want to do. If you really want to charge the mountain, I would suggest the Capo, if you want something a little more forgiving and playful, I would go with the Rodeo.

However, I choose Ride bindings because I have a size 14 boot and they make bindings just big enough to fit that. I've also found that flow XL bindings fit. Now I'm sure your friends had a reasonable explanation as to why not to get flow bindings, however my friend has the new NX2 bindings and he loves them. I messed around with the 11/12 flow bindings and I thought they were also nice. So I wouldn't rule them out just yet. Also with your size foot you can try all kinds of bindings really. I'm limited because of the size of my boot, but you aren't. If I were you, I would go to a shop and try out a bunch of different brand bindings and see which one you like the most.

Nivek 11-27-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gdog42 (Post 543977)
I've seen several reviews that say Ride bindings are not very durable. The most common problems are the straps and ladders coming loose easily, and the rubber material busting/popping out on the toe straps.

One of my friends has had a pair though for a few years and so far hasn't had any problems with them, so...lucky him!

Some of the best brands for bindings are Flux, Union, Burton, Salomon, and Drake.

Check those out. They are much higher quality than Ride and will definately last a lot longer!

Really? Throwin Drake in there?

Ride bindings are not low quality. Sure the rubber mesh in the toes can break, but it really doesn't do much and if it wasn't there at all the toe strap would still function well.

I'd venture a guess your experienced friends either haven't touched Flow's in 6-7 years, or they have and never got them set up right, or they haven't tried them ever and are just repeating the opinions of the past. They are fantastic bindings and ride great.

If you do wanna stick with Ride I would suggest the Capo. You're bigger, you're going to flex that binding more than most of us.

buckeyeguy 11-27-2012 02:12 PM

All- Thanks much for your responses...they've been very helpful.

Toomeyct- Good to know there are other big-footed guys in this sport! Interesting (and helpful) that you have both setups. I think I will primarily be cruising groomers, hitting powder with some ski buddies, doing some trees and natural jumps, and for the most part, staying out of the park, except on days where I get bored doing the other stuff (or at least until I get more comfortable and skilled on my board). I like that the SL gives me good flexibility to do it all, but will probably be most concerned about maintaining control when I find myself getting too much speed on slopes above my skill level. It sounds like the Capo may be the way to go based on that and your feedback. I think I'd prefer control over playfulness (at least for now) and may need the extra strength in the binding given my size.

Nivek- Thanks for the feedback as well. I agree with you--my guess is most people hold a pre-conceived view of rear-entry bindings or at least that their view didn't keep pace with the innovation that has gone on in the space. Sounds like the newest Flows may be the way to go, especially for the slopes here in Ohio. I'm going to check them out (per your recommendation). Quick question--do you find the lack of a traditional toe strap gives you less responsiveness/control? I like the Capo's toe strap quite a bit (very responsive) and noticed that the pictures of the new Flows have a toe strap option, but it does not go over the top of the boot and instead is used to secure the front of the boot in the binding. Any thoughts?

Toomeyct 11-27-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeyeguy (Post 544153)
All- Thanks much for your responses...they've been very helpful.

Toomeyct- Good to know there are other big-footed guys in this sport! Interesting (and helpful) that you have both setups. I think I will primarily be cruising groomers, hitting powder with some ski buddies, doing some trees and natural jumps, and for the most part, staying out of the park, except on days where I get bored doing the other stuff (or at least until I get more comfortable and skilled on my board). I like that the SL gives me good flexibility to do it all, but will probably be most concerned about maintaining control when I find myself getting too much speed on slopes above my skill level. It sounds like the Capo may be the way to go based on that and your feedback. I think I'd prefer control over playfulness (at least for now) and may need the extra strength in the binding given my size.

Nivek- Thanks for the feedback as well. I agree with you--my guess is most people hold a pre-conceived view of rear-entry bindings or at least that their view didn't keep pace with the innovation that has gone on in the space. Sounds like the newest Flows may be the way to go, especially for the slopes here in Ohio. I'm going to check them out (per your recommendation). Quick question--do you find the lack of a traditional toe strap gives you less responsiveness/control? I like the Capo's toe strap quite a bit (very responsive) and noticed that the pictures of the new Flows have a toe strap option, but it does not go over the top of the boot and instead is used to secure the front of the boot in the binding. Any thoughts?

No problem man. Its always nice to chat with people who are in a similar situation as myself. I see all these guys on the hill who are 150 lbs and riding narrow boards and small bindings. I just can't relate to those people.

From your description, I think the Capo may fit you the best out of the Ride lineup. Though I wouldn't say you would overpower the Rodeo by any means. I'm a bigger guy myself 6'1", 225 and I don't feel like I am too big for the Rodeo. Its just a different binding for a different kind of riding. I usually get that board and binding out when I just want to mess around that day.

As far as your question about flows, I've tried out the 11/12 version of Flows without their toe strap and my friend has the 12/13 version flows with the normal Flow strap. From the reviews that I read, the toe strap really doesn't do anything other than stop the boot. It doesn't really add the response that a toe cap does on traditional bindings. I've only ridden them once and didn't really notice that much of a difference. They felt a bit looser but I got used to it quickly. The new Flow NX2's have the NASTY system so you can get them a lot tighter now and still get into them if them not being as tight as traditional bindings bothers you. My friend went from traditional bindings with a toe cap to Flow bindings and he won't go back. He loves them.

Gdog42 11-27-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nivek (Post 544070)
Really? Throwin Drake in there?

Ride bindings are not low quality. Sure the rubber mesh in the toes can break, but it really doesn't do much and if it wasn't there at all the toe strap would still function well.

I'd venture a guess your experienced friends either haven't touched Flow's in 6-7 years, or they have and never got them set up right, or they haven't tried them ever and are just repeating the opinions of the past. They are fantastic bindings and ride great.

If you do wanna stick with Ride I would suggest the Capo. You're bigger, you're going to flex that binding more than most of us.

Of course I'm throwing Drake in there! They're long-lasting, and after riding 2 pairs of my last bindings that broke, I know it's important that bindings are durable.

Right now I have a pair of Union bindings and it's great because I never have to worry about slamming them too hard and never need to tighten them up. Here's one thread, for examples, in which most users had only good things to say about their Drake bindings after having used them for years. http://www.snowboardingforum.com/equ...-bindings.html

I never said anything about Flow bindings, but some of my friends do have K2 Cinch bindings... and they both broke! I've also seen several reviews where people's Flow bindings have broken easily. Gnu bindings do look pretty strong though and I haven't heard of any breakage issues with them, so maybe I'll try those some day. Check this out: http://www.snowboardingforum.com/equ...-bindings.html

And yes, I would give a shit if the toe straps broke. Bindings are expensive, so I'd expect to get something that at least lasts several seasons without any problems.:)

Nivek 11-27-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gdog42 (Post 544212)

Not to be an ass, but that thread is from 2008. It's irrelevant when considering 2013 Flow.

I rode the Zombie edition Quattro's for a whole year and didn't have a single issue. I've been riding last years M9 SE's for 2 now and have had no issues. Gnu's are crap. They feel like 4 year old Rides and they have too much canting in the highback.

The new Hybrid strap is great if you are more often in powder situations cause they better allow for traditional entry.

As far as loss of performance with a lack of toe cap, you actually get better performance. Instead of driving into the highback then down into the heelcup then the frame then the board, you drive into the highback, straight into the cable, staight into the base. Skipping a force redirection means more energy goes into the board. They're quicker edge to edge than traditional bindings.


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