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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 03:44 PM
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I have never been a fan of Union in general but i must say just from looking at the Altas they are a solid binding. THe bosses and cartels are great binders as well. You really can't go wrong. If your more into jibbing/jumps i would get the bosses if your more into mountain shit the cartels might be a better fit. Can't speak for the altas because i haven't ridden them but they seem to be a good do everything binding.
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I have all three of these bindings. Rode the 390 bosses all last year....decent but i had several times where the binding felt loose and had to keep tightening them... to the point the ankle strap was killing my foot. I bought the cartels this year and i have really tried to like them...but they just seem cheap and they make way too many strange noises.. ..clicking like something is broken...i have had the apart a dozen times and could not find and issue. Also the relfex is a nice thought but there is too much slop in the fit of the disc to the baseplate. This results in too much lifting of the binding during edge to edge movement. Regardless they got removed and got replaced by the Union Atlas . Much better built binding. More adjustability. Allows the board to flex under foot but doesnt have excessive play like the Cartel's . Gonna ride the Atlas' next weekend...4 days should give a decent idea of where they stand.
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You sound like me.

I didn't feel like the Cartels were cheap or anything though, they definitely didn't feel as "locked in" as the Atlas. That's really all it was though, just a feeling, as I had ZERO problems riding in them, I just liked my Unions better.

I had the same issues with my 390s from 2010-2011. I liked them, but at times, they wouldn't stay dialed all the way down the hill. I started getting superstitious and sketched out on every run. I heard they addressed that for last/this year.

You're gonna love your atlases.
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I just got the 390 Boss from last year.
Found them for 130 new at an outlet.
No one gives a flying fuck that you bought it new and for $130, unless you mention where you got them.
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No one gives a flying fuck that you bought it new and for $130, unless you mention where you got them.
Calm your shit.

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decent but i had several times where the binding felt loose and had to keep tightening them.
My buddy just got a brand new pair of 390s, and he mentioned that the ratchets slipped as well, one time coming all the way off. He said he loved everything else about the binding, but the slip issue freaked him out.

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Evo

He got the 390 Boss' on Evo's website in the outlet section...I have a set sitting/waiting for some snow here on the East Coast.

Right now they only have the 390 in the outlet section...atleast for L/XL
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My buddy just got a brand new pair of 390s, and he mentioned that the ratchets slipped as well, one time coming all the way off. He said he loved everything else about the binding, but the slip issue freaked him out.
I didn't really notice it until I went out west with them. Here in Michigan they were fine....I had to crank on them a bit, but not too bad (probably more than I should have had to though). However, out west half way down some of the steeps they would start loosening up...not a ratchet slip, but more like something was stretching. I expect things to settle in, but once they take a set that should be it. This wasn't the case. It was getting tiring...they had to go.

Maybe for a rider not pushing it very hard, they would be ok?
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You sound like me.

I didn't feel like the Cartels were cheap or anything though, they definitely didn't feel as "locked in" as the Atlas. That's really all it was though, just a feeling, as I had ZERO problems riding in them, I just liked my Unions better.

I had the same issues with my 390s from 2010-2011. I liked them, but at times, they wouldn't stay dialed all the way down the hill. I started getting superstitious and sketched out on every run. I heard they addressed that for last/this year.

You're gonna love your atlases.
Yeah I am stoked to ride the Atlas'.
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Yeah I am stoked to ride the Atlas'.
I am super happy with my 2013 Atlas'.....took a few tweaks and outings to get them set up to my liking but once I arrived there>>>>
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