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Old 11-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I have been reading a number of post fairly similar to what I'm asking so i apologize if this is redundant but I really could use specific expert advice.

I just bought an Arbor formula board after trying a few boards last season and really liked riding this board. What i need now is to figure out bindings. See below for skill level. I found with the rental boards i was always tighting the straps as tight as i could to the point my feet almost went numb. Not sure if that means i want a stiffer binding. I will be doing 2/3 normal moutain / off trail ridding and 1/3 small park for now. Everything posted shows the rome 390s or cartels are the go to but really not sure if these are compatible with my board or if they are too "soft" if on the rental bindings i always wanted them tighter. Also note i will not really have the option to try out bindings as i live 1,000 miles from the moutain and budget is not much of a concern.

I would appreciate any guidance, any help i get if its in durango or Breckenridge i will buy a few round of beers on the slope

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Skill level: I don't know if i fall into the beginner or intermidate ( can fly down most runs minus mogels and hit jumps and rails in the small parks) have skied for 15 years and i am an expert but just picked up snowboarding 2 years ago as all my friends board, I find it more enjoyable, and haven't strap on skis since(actually sold all my ski gear). I normally make 2-3 trips for 2-3 days each trip per year.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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When I started snowboarding, I also cranked down my bindings to a ridiculous level. I think it may be a psychological thing -- and you probably don't actually need the bindings that tight.

Or, if you are wearing boots that are a bit too big and let you move around, you may be compensating by trying to crank the bindings to tighten the boots.

Specific advice: Get boots first. Try on a lot of boots, get the perfect boots. THEN get bindings.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When I started snowboarding, I also cranked down my bindings to a ridiculous level. I think it may be a psychological thing -- and you probably don't actually need the bindings that tight.

Or, if you are wearing boots that are a bit too big and let you move around, you may be compensating by trying to crank the bindings to tighten the boots.

Specific advice: Get boots first. Try on a lot of boots, get the perfect boots. THEN get bindings.
Agreed with Donutz, Boots are your biggest priority; get them dialed in with a Boot Fitter. Plus the Arbor Formula is a medium flex (not a stiff board, but note cheap rentals usually are stiffer). If your boots are custom fitted already and if you travel to Colorado, try stopping by Loveland! They have a big demo center there; so try a few binding with your gear. If you have no plans to do Loveland; Nivek and BA are in Breck.

As for recommendations: I'll repeat all the mid flexing bindings that are mentioned on the board. K2 Formula, Flux TT30, Rome 390 Boss, Burton Cartel, and Union Force.

Look also at Ride, Flow, Forum, GNU, Nitro, ... They are all good brands, just need to find what works for you.

Hope this helps - Nito
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Thanks for the help fellas. Went and tried on probably 30 pairs of boots yesterday at the local shop in Houston with a guy that seemed to be very knowledgeable and ended up with some 32 lashed boots picking solely based on comfort and fit. Anything wrong with getting him to set me up with some bindings there as I will probably be hitting the slopes on the end of a business trip before I have time to goto one of those places to try them out (If I can make it by loveland first I will but doubt it)? They don't stock any Burton (and I don't want to goto the big chain stores where they don't have a clue about the gear) stuff so I would go with the 390 boss or Union Force. Also the union sl, is that a binding I should consider?
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Thanks for the help fellas. Went and tried on probably 30 pairs of boots yesterday at the local shop in Houston with a guy that seemed to be very knowledgeable and ended up with some 32 lashed boots picking solely based on comfort and fit. Anything wrong with getting him to set me up with some bindings there as I will probably be hitting the slopes on the end of a business trip before I have time to goto one of those places to try them out (If I can make it by loveland first I will but doubt it)? They don't stock any Burton (and I don't want to goto the big chain stores where they don't have a clue about the gear) stuff so I would go with the 390 boss or Union Force. Also the union sl, is that a binding I should consider?
32 Lashed are a nice set of boots. So, he probably has decent bindings in the store to match to the boots.

Definitely avoid the big box store like Dick's and Modell's, but REI has a great return policy. If you have an REI store near you, talk with a sales person about their return policy.

As for the Force SL, I can't comment on their flex but I think SL stands for Super Light. Do a search on Union bindings, there was a recent discussion and a Union rep came on board and explained a few of the models. For example, Union's most expensive model (MC) is their lightest not their stiffest.

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When I started snowboarding, I also cranked down my bindings to a ridiculous level. I think it may be a psychological thing -- and you probably don't actually need the bindings that tight.

Specific advice: Get boots first. Try on a lot of boots, get the perfect boots. THEN get bindings.
I'm a 1-1/2 yr. NooB, with NO skiing exp., so keep that in mind.

I was cranking my 32 ST Boa's & Cartel's so tight my first few months riding, that I couldn't stand to stay strapped into my board for more than 2-3 runs! At first, it felt like I couldn't control the board without getting everything super tight! But I was getting some incredible foot pain!!!

Got some serendipitous good advice on the lift one day & confirmed it later with the guy's here,.. Now I ride with a "Much" less cranked down setup and as a result, my riding & control Improved! I can stay strapped in way longer and need far fewer breaks to give the "dogs" some relief!

...as a reformed skiier, ...maybe you are just used to the feeling of boots that "Lock" you onto your ride??? Not to mention, rental shit, is ridden to death and probably super "sloppy"! (...I know my rentals were!)

REI would be a great choice for trying & buying boots & bindings, if it's available to you. 100% satisfaction guaranteed returns. (...for members. Lifetime membership is $20) I rode & returned several pairs of boots & bindings before I got it right! Hope that helps!
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op, throw away the lashed foot beds and get some superfeet or sole or etc.

look at this thread about footbeds and mods for heel lift

http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boo...s-faq-etc.html

as for bindings....take your boots along and make sure they fit in the bindings and if you go burton bindings, get the 4 hole baseplates....btw the ratchets on burtons are darn good....perhaps get a set of burton ratchets and ladder straps for your binders
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Try on as many pairs of boots as you can. You can always work around bindings, but a good pair of boots are irreplaceable.
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