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Now IPO or Flux DMCC Light or Salomon Hologram

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#1 ·
Hi All,

I'm planning on buying a new pair of bindings this winter and will be pairing them up with my 2012 158 NS Heritage and 2013 157 NS Cobra. My weight fluctuates a bit, currently I weight 175 lbs but last summer was down to 160 lbs. Other stats: 5' 8" with a 31" inseam; ride goofy; skill level intermediate; boot size us 8.5; 80% trail and trees 20% park. Stance angles vary based on terrain and board; some days I ride +15 -15 other days I'll ride +18 -6.

Problem: Difficulty flexing Heritage longitudinally. I'm thinking this maybe due to the cant pads; as I'm bring my knees much closer than I did when using my Titans.

Background history: 2011 Heritage demoed (from Gilly's in Ma) over a weekend with Flux Titans (and paired great) but sold Titans because I wanted canting to reduce stress on my knees. Bought s/m Rome 390 Boss, sized down to gain response and used 2.5 cant. Upgraded ankle strap with Targa ankle strap (from old pair) and inserted pads to make stiffer. Upgraded highback also. Increased stance from 21.5 to 22.5 measured center to center; 22.5 feels a little wide especially when trying to engage either tip or tail.

Note: The 390 Boss works great with my Proto (waist width is so narrow, I don't need to flex Proto). However, for me it just doesn't work with the Heritage and given all the upgrades made; they are Frankensteined Targas and should perform well on the Heritage. I also like the softer heel cup of the Titan and the reason I'm interested in the Hologram.

I'll be demoing gear this Dec but looking for some input; hard to make decision based on only a couple of runs on early season ice coast trails, but noticing some stock starting to shrink. Also, plans for a trip soon after to Alaska.

Thanks in advance for your input - Nito
 
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#6 ·
Nows might be a love or hate, but I'd guess most people that dont like them havent skated much. Its a bit more of a skate feel the way you drive with your feet more. On top of that I havent heard a lot of dislike for them yet. They're a pretty good match for the Heritage.

Even though the Holograms are stated as canted, I saw none and certainly didnt feel any when I rode them. If you grew up skating or surfing give these a shot.

The DMCC Lights are wicked light and on a Heritage would do well for the riding you're looking at. You might find the highback to give just a bit in a more freeride situation but they'll be butter in the park.

Not on your list but maybe look at Compnay IPO's as already mentioned. I rode them on a few decks at Loveland, one of them being a 161 Ultra Dream. They had enough response from the frame and straps to give me everything I wanted in order to drive a board too big for me but the highback let me get out onto the tips a little more so I could play around a bit. If you really want canting, these are your best option based on the other choices your looking at.
 
#8 ·
Thanks for all the comments Nivek! Definitely adding the Company IPO to my list after 2 recommendations. Based on your comment, sounds like I'll know if the Now IPO and Hologram will be a good match for me after just a few runs. The DMCC are a better known quality based on my past experience with the Titans; guess it comes down to which feels best among the 4 bindings.

Thanks again Nito
 
#7 ·
I love my NOW bindings on my Jones Flagship.

The best way I can describe nows is being able to steer with two feet.

At first it feels a little loose but once you realize how much leverage you can apply edge to edge you'll realize how much less work you are doing. Changing the bushings also helps with just how "squishy" it feels. I prefer the medium for all around.

When I put them on m protoCT the difference between my burton malavita was very noticeable.

I was always a burton binding fan and until the Nows I've never ridden anything as comfortable.


I'm tempted to order 2 more sets of nows for my other boards.
 
#14 ·
I picked up a pair of IPOs today, and while I cant complain on the performance because the conditions are balls i gotta say that the mini tape measure it came with was a nice touch. Useful, thoughtful and costs nothing. Makes you wonder why more manufactures don't through one in. It also came with a strap which im assuming is something strap your board to your pants?! Not sure since I have never used one, but I have heard some mountains require them so its worth keeping handy just in case.
 
#16 ·
Agree with Trip. I spoke with a shop owner and he said, he's avoiding the Shadow Fit tech because of the Relay. Many of the Online Store also have limited quantity but this maybe due to last year's poor season and cutting back on supply.
 
#18 ·
I demoed the Now IPO and love the feel of the bindings; all prior positive comments are justified. Plus the foam footbed is soft enough that canting is not an issue. An unexpected plus is the minimized base; it cuts the chatter from the board and the king pin also allows the board to pivot while cruising on rough hardpack man made cover. For those that are worried about the King Pin, I rarely noticed it while riding but can feel it when standing around or while waiting in the lift line.

In addition, I was able to find the Salomon Hologram used on ebay and bought them. With the Now IPO on the NS Heritage; I mounted the binding on my Proto. The Hologam is not as damp and I feel every nuance (some people will like this), but I prefer the Rome 390 Boss on my Proto. Surprisingly, the Hologram can be very stiff if the ankle strap is tight; will try both IPO and Hologram on my old Morrow Blaze (replace my Ride CAD).

Hope this helps anyone in the market for either.
 
#19 ·
How'd you like the Holograms? I know I'm looking for something considerably stiffer than my '07 Ride LXs. When I torsional flex my board, I can see the baseplate flex way away from the board, so I have to be losing a ton of response there.
 
#20 ·
I own the now ipo's and the holograms and both are good at what they do. In the park the halograms just own and allow for all that side to side flex you want but are still stiff edge to edge. If I am off trail I like my ipo's more as it has that longboard skate feel for me. I ride the holograms on my evo and the nows on my heritage and blacklist and could not be happier with both bindings. That being said if you hate have that lose feeling in your bindings normally you will not like both of these bindings.
 
#21 ·
I guess i don't hate anything, in particular. I don't know enough, haven't ridden anything else. I actually like the idea of some movement tip to tail. Would it be out of line to ask a shop to stick a pair on a board to see how they move? They look at my greybeard with enough disdain as it is...:D
 
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