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tonyisnowhere 12-02-2012 09:56 AM

New Binding angle set up
 
Hey everyone just thought I would ask some experienced folks what is a good starting point for my Arbor Element CX (camber). It is a directional board so I was thinking more angle in front less in back. I have only ridden reverse camber snowboards and I keep them at 15, 15. Any suggestions would be appreciated. This board would be mainly used on groomers until I understand the ride.
Thanks all :D

NWBoarder 12-02-2012 11:53 AM

If you're cozy at 15, -15, then keep it that way. No sense in changing what works.

tonyisnowhere 12-02-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NWBoarder (Post 546455)
If you're cozy at 15, -15, then keep it that way. No sense in changing what works.

:thumbsup:

phony_stark 12-02-2012 12:16 PM

This is something you will probably be able to answer better as you experiment. It's all preference.

I do think, however, if you're going to be riding one direction the whole/majority of the time a lower, or even zero back binding will be helpful. Again, preference though.

Gdog42 12-02-2012 12:34 PM

If you're finding it a little difficult to go onto your heel edge, put less angle on the back binding.

If not, then just keep it how it is. It's about whatever feels best for you.
A good way of finding your stance is to put your boots on and stand on the board with them. Whatever stance feels the most comfortable in your riding direction is where you should mount them. Just make sure the distance from the tip of the board to the front binding is greater than or the same as it is for the back.

I used to ride -15,15 but I had trouble turning on my heel edge, so I changed it to -6, 15. Worked great after that. I don't know what happened during the off-season, but when I tried on my board again recently it felt uncomfortable. I changed the front angle to 21 degrees and now it feels nice again.

So, it doesn't matter what your stance is as long as it's comfortable for you and allows you to ride effectively. :)

tonyisnowhere 12-02-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf (Post 546558)
I am with Nwboarder here. Stay with the angles that you are comfortable with. I take it this is your first camber deck so it is going to take a little getting used to and changing your stance angles now just adds another variable to the mix.

A word of caution to you if this is indeed your first time on a fully cambered dack. Pay way more attention to your edge control and avoid flat basing completely until you become very edge aware. Cambered decks are not as forgiving of slight mistakes or just sloppy riding as a rocker and are prone to catch edge hard when you do fuck up. Ride conservatively and take some time to really get a feel for the edginess of this new board; your ass and your face will thank you for being cautious....:D

Yes you are right! Snowolf I am 32 years old with two babies and a wife, No risks for me haha. Thank you for your input! A few people told me similar advice. But this is the first I hear about "Avoid flat basing". I do appreciate it! I plan on keeping to super easy hills at first(back to the bunny slopes!). The main reason I want to ride camber is because I know I am a sloppy rider and the rocker allows me to be. I want to improve in every way I can and going to camber I thought would really teach me better technique and more technical riding. I also plan on taking another private lesson so I have someone point out what I need to improve or tighten up. I might try a more directional set up just for shits and giggles. I don't plan on trying to ride switch on the camber until I got going forward down. Any good (mild )forward stances numbers that would ok if I need to end up in switch and not eat it.

t21 12-02-2012 08:15 PM

your 15/-15 should be just fine. but if you are looking for a milder angle you can start with 15/-3 or 12/-3,-6 or even 9/-9 :dunno: but its really up to you. i ride a camber deck with early rise but i started with regular camber(rental) and ended with 15/-3 for two season. but this season i changed it to 15/-6 and it felt a bit easier. though i have not tried this set-up on steeps and moguls yet. btw, snowolf is right,flat-basing on regular camber does freaking hurt:mad:

davidjames 12-04-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyisnowhere (Post 546561)
. I want to improve in every way I can and going to camber I thought would really teach me better technique and more technical riding. I also plan on taking another private lesson so I have someone point out what I need to improve or tighten up.

The lesson is solid idea, especially a private. Make sure you go in with an idea of what you want to work on, as well as a list of questions you may have. Don't forget to utilize lift time to pick instructors brains.

tonyisnowhere 12-04-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by davidjames (Post 547945)
The lesson is solid idea, especially a private. Make sure you go in with an idea of what you want to work on, as well as a list of questions you may have. Don't forget to utilize lift time to pick instructors brains.

Thanks! Great Ideas! :thumbsup:

poutanen 12-04-2012 09:24 PM

I ride a heavily cambered, very stiff, very directional board, and I still run a symmetrical setup (-12/+12 or so)... But look at some pros and some of them are all forward angles, some run mild duck, some symmetrical, etc.

Point of my story is you've got to find what works for you, and angle is just part of the equation. Best advice when setting up ANYTHING (boards, bindings, cars, etc.) is to change on variable at a time. In this case that's the board. Leave everything else equal and get used to that board for a couple days. After that fiddle if you want, but ONE THING AT A TIME! :D

I don't think you need to go back to bunny hills to ride a cambered deck. Go on runs you're used to but take it easy for a few runs to get the feel. I honestly don't think camber is nearly as scary as some people make it out to be!


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