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hmm, i've been riding mine everyday and they still look brand. best straps i've had. nothing has ever slipped.

do you have the ends runinng through the strap slots? if they're sticking up they might catch and pull the latch open.


Wow, reading comprehension fail. He said stripping, I said splitting. Neither of us said slipping. You must find rhyming music/poetry extremely confusing lol.

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I am very interested in these, those who are having strap issues please post as to how the customer service is and if they give you new straps or not.

@Binary you really rate these that much more than you burton bindings?

whats the key area where they win over the burtons?

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I'd be interested to hear a review of the Nidecker. Did you send back the Vapor that was scuffed and get the megalight? Or do you rock both.

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This is after 5 days on the IPOs... I have close to 30 days on a set of Cartels with no marks on the ladders at all. I haven't made a issue out of it yet.

I do love these bindings though more and more all the time... I almost want to buy a second pair for my other board.

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Damn Torpedo ,those ratchets look rough. Especially for 5 days. Hopefully they can iron out those kinds of issues for next season.

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This is after 5 days on the IPOs... I have close to 30 days on a set of Cartels with no marks on the ladders at all. I haven't made a issue out of it yet.

I do love these bindings though more and more all the time... I almost want to buy a second pair for my other board.

Ouch, I have 2 and a half seasons on my cartels and the ladders are still mint.

Guess I will wait till next year until they get it fixed.

Still everyone seems to love how they ride.
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Yeah I'm hoping they see a known problem and source a tougher plastic for replacement ladders. Love the bindings regardless though...the super damp ride is awesome
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This is after 5 days on the IPOs... I have close to 30 days on a set of Cartels with no marks on the ladders at all. I haven't made a issue out of it yet.

Mine don't look quite as bad as yours after 1 extra day than you, but I'm sure they'll be like that soon enough. I haven't noticed any noticeable effects yet, but prob a good idea to call or shoot them an email to get new ladder straps on the way for the eventual replacement and avoid any potential downtime. I concur that I've owned plenty of bindings from Flux, Union, Burton, Ride, K2, etc... and never seen it quite this bad even after multiple seasons on some sets.

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Yeah I fired off an email to see how they respond. That photo is the worst of the ladders, but all 4 have wear like it, toe straps and ankle.
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@Binary you really rate these that much more than you burton bindings?
whats the key area where they win over the burtons?
I'll break this down into pros and cons.

Pros:
I love the kingping stuff and being able to "steer" with 2 feet.
I love the straps, even with my board hanging on the lift no pressure points.
I love how my heel fits in the heel cup.
Damping... holy awesome comfy.

Cons:
The highback isn't adjustable at all other than forward lean.
The ratchets aren't as nice as burton's.
No toe ramp adjustment.

The big thing here. My Ions, SLX, and Driver X in size 9.5 all fit very snuggly into the heel cup and thus I get no lag toe or heel side. I always feel like burton ride a little loser. Even with adjustments.

However, this could be a complete deal breaking for people with other size boots. I ride the medium which caps out at 9.5. I think if I had a pair of DC or K2 or something without foot shrinking I'd want a large... maybe.

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This is after 5 days on the IPOs... I have close to 30 days on a set of Cartels with no marks on the ladders at all. I haven't made a issue out of it yet.

I do love these bindings though more and more all the time... I almost want to buy a second pair for my other board.

I have 15 or so days on mine and my ladders and ratchets are just fine. I have a feeling you need to adjust your straps more. You shouldn't be putting that much force into ratcheting or un-ratcheting.

On this note though.

I've thought about swapping out the ratchets with Burton ratchets. Just because I do like how the burton ratchet operates. Flip up to unlock versus that stupid button lever thing.

Perhaps the same could be done with the ladders.

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my straps are adjusted fine, and I don't tighten them any more than I do with my Cartels, which show no signs of wear at all. I understand why you might jump to that conclusion but obviously others are having the same issue so I don't think it's operator error. It's not rocket science to understand how binding straps function.
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