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Sudden_Death · 01-10-2013, 08:47 PM

Yes the flush heel cup and kingpin add enough support and response that they aren't really missed. Plus add that today's boots are stiff enough that it really makes little difference as to if you ride with them or without them. I remember riding friend's boards in the mid 90s with the backs removed or cut right down and this another world as far as feel and response go.

ARSENALFAN · 01-10-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sudden_Death

Yes the flush heel cup and kingpin add enough support and response that they aren't really missed. Plus add that today's boots are stiff enough that it really makes little difference as to if you ride with them or without them. I remember riding friend's boards in the mid 90s with the backs removed or cut right down and this another world as far as feel and response go.

I rode a pair of IPO's today on my Yes Pick Your Line. Definately enjoyed it more as opposed to when I had my Cartels on it. I landed jumps (smaller ones) much better and I just ripped through the pow and chopped pow with confidence. I definately like them alot.

MJP · 01-11-2013, 09:06 PM

Anyone know how heavy these are in comparison to the Burton C60's? I thought I read a post they were tanks.....

Megatron X · 01-15-2013, 06:37 PM

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Anyone know how heavy these are in comparison to the Burton C60's? I thought I read a post they were tanks.....

I'm not sure how heavy the C60's are but I can say that these aren't tanks. They are lighter than my Ride Maestro's I had on the board before. I haven't compared them to my Cartels

Sudden_Death · 01-15-2013, 07:06 PM

I have the mediums and they seem to be about the same as my large K2 auto uprise and less than a large Flow M11. Can't speak to the C60s but the Now are far from heavy.

MJP · 01-15-2013, 07:35 PM

Got to check them out at a shop here in San Diego, surprised by how light they actually are. Ordered a pair in the white. Also, emailed the company asking about replacement parts as I've seen some teeth chewed up pretty good on a handful of uses. They're really quick to reply, covered by warranty, and will replace them asap. Guys at Hanger 94 said they can't keep them on the shelves and they love theirs......

Nito · 01-16-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by binarypie

I'll break this down into pros and cons.

Pros:
I love the kingping stuff and being able to "steer" with 2 feet.
I love the straps, even with my board hanging on the lift no pressure points.
I love how my heel fits in the heel cup.
Damping... holy awesome comfy.

Cons:
The highback isn't adjustable at all other than forward lean.
The ratchets aren't as nice as burton's.
No toe ramp adjustment.

The big thing here. My Ions, SLX, and Driver X in size 9.5 all fit very snuggly into the heel cup and thus I get no lag toe or heel side. I always feel like burton ride a little loser. Even with adjustments.

However, this could be a complete deal breaking for people with other size boots. I ride the medium which caps out at 9.5. I think if I had a pair of DC or K2 or something without foot shrinking I'd want a large... maybe.

I have 15 or so days on mine and my ladders and ratchets are just fine. I have a feeling you need to adjust your straps more. You shouldn't be putting that much force into ratcheting or un-ratcheting.

On this note though.

I've thought about swapping out the ratchets with Burton ratchets. Just because I do like how the burton ratchet operates. Flip up to unlock versus that stupid button lever thing.

Perhaps the same could be done with the ladders.

Hi All,

I just bought a pair of the IPO, rode them for 2 days and agree with most of Binary Pie's comments.

My difference with his evaluation are as follows:
1) The Toe ramp is unnecessary (kingpin system provides leverage that toe ramp would provide), would be redundant and add weight.
2) The plastic used for the straps/ladders are made of a softer plastic that can get chewed up if the toe cap (and ankle strap) is not setup correctly.

Note: the following has not been discussed.
1) The toe strap that anchors the toe cap to the binding needs to be modified in order to remove/replace the toe cap. This can easily be done with a box cutter; just shave some of the plastic from the end of the toe strap.
2) When the bindings are new out of the box, the strap attached/secured to the toe cap is threaded into the leather toe cap cover. I backed the strap out and slid the toe cap further down to properly adjust the toe cap.

Hope this help - Nito

binarypie · 01-16-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nito

Hi All,

I just bought a pair of the IPO, rode them for 2 days and agree with most of Binary Pie's comments.

My difference with his evaluation are as follows:
1) The Toe ramp is unnecessary (kingpin system provides leverage that toe ramp would provide), would be redundant and add weight.
2) The plastic used for the straps/ladders are made of a softer plastic that can get chewed up if the toe cap (and ankle strap) is not setup correctly.

[... snip ... ]

Hope this help - Nito

I'll respond to those two points.

1) I meant I wish I could extend it's length not that it needs to be a ramp.

2) In this thread or another. I can't remember but I actually now have wear on mine as well.

I still love these bindings! New colors for 2014 look awesome!

Nito · 01-17-2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by binarypie

I'll respond to those two points.

1) I meant I wish I could extend it's length not that it needs to be a ramp.

2) In this thread or another. I can't remember but I actually now have wear on mine as well.

I still love these bindings! New colors for 2014 look awesome!

I'm not sure if it work if the toe ramp and heel loop could be extended. If it did, they would be decreasing the kingpin action/response.

On a side note, I demoed these before purchase and knew about some of the issues (from the forum and my demo). They are great bindings and I'm happy with the purchase; even with the minor issues.

BTW, if anyone from Now is listening, when you release the updated straps, could you also make shorter straps available? I could just cut the excess, but it would look ghetto.

Nito

smerdyakov · 01-17-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nito

I'm not sure if it work if the toe ramp and heel loop could be extended. If it did, they would be decreasing the kingpin action/response.

On a side note, I demoed these before purchase and knew about some of the issues (from the forum and my demo). They are great bindings and I'm happy with the purchase; even with the minor issues.

BTW, if anyone from Now is listening, when you release the updated straps, could you also make shorter straps available? I could just cut the excess, but it would look ghetto.

Nito

Nito- there is a place to tuck the excess ladder on both the ankle strap and toe strap. Mine came with the ladders tucked in them. There is an opening right next to where they connect to the strap. It can a little tough to get it in there. If that is not clear i can post a pic. If that doesn't work email NOW, they are incredibly responsive. When I emailed them at the end of last season, JF emailed me back and we had a good exchange.

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01-10-2013, 08:47 PM	#81 (permalink)
Sudden_Death Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ottawa, On Posts: 659	Yes the flush heel cup and kingpin add enough support and response that they aren't really missed. Plus add that today's boots are stiff enough that it really makes little difference as to if you ride with them or without them. I remember riding friend's boards in the mid 90s with the backs removed or cut right down and this another world as far as feel and response go.

01-11-2013, 09:06 PM	#83 (permalink)
MJP Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 52	Anyone know how heavy these are in comparison to the Burton C60's? I thought I read a post they were tanks.....

01-15-2013, 07:06 PM	#85 (permalink)
Sudden_Death Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ottawa, On Posts: 659	I have the mediums and they seem to be about the same as my large K2 auto uprise and less than a large Flow M11. Can't speak to the C60s but the Now are far from heavy.

01-15-2013, 07:35 PM	#86 (permalink)
MJP Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 52	Got to check them out at a shop here in San Diego, surprised by how light they actually are. Ordered a pair in the white. Also, emailed the company asking about replacement parts as I've seen some teeth chewed up pretty good on a handful of uses. They're really quick to reply, covered by warranty, and will replace them asap. Guys at Hanger 94 said they can't keep them on the shelves and they love theirs......