I'm on week long trip to banff right now and have been making first lines in thick pow every day with them. I live these bindings, BUT the latches on the straps themselves are stripping. Ill be doin a warranty claim as soon as I'm back.
Yup, just started noticing that on all 4 ladder straps. Oh and both ankle straps are now splitting apart a bit at the top. This is after only 6 days on them this far.
Wow, reading comprehension fail. He said stripping, I said splitting. Neither of us said slipping. You must find rhyming music/poetry extremely confusing lol.
Pros:
I love the kingping stuff and being able to "steer" with 2 feet.
I love the straps, even with my board hanging on the lift no pressure points.
I love how my heel fits in the heel cup.
Damping... holy awesome comfy.
Cons:
The highback isn't adjustable at all other than forward lean.
The ratchets aren't as nice as burton's.
No toe ramp adjustment.
The big thing here. My Ions, SLX, and Driver X in size 9.5 all fit very snuggly into the heel cup and thus I get no lag toe or heel side. I always feel like burton ride a little loser. Even with adjustments.
However, this could be a complete deal breaking for people with other size boots. I ride the medium which caps out at 9.5. I think if I had a pair of DC or K2 or something without foot shrinking I'd want a large... maybe.
This is after 5 days on the IPOs... I have close to 30 days on a set of Cartels with no marks on the ladders at all. I haven't made a issue out of it yet.
I do love these bindings though more and more all the time... I almost want to buy a second pair for my other board.
I have 15 or so days on mine and my ladders and ratchets are just fine. I have a feeling you need to adjust your straps more. You shouldn't be putting that much force into ratcheting or un-ratcheting.
On this note though.
I've thought about swapping out the ratchets with Burton ratchets. Just because I do like how the burton ratchet operates. Flip up to unlock versus that stupid button lever thing.
This is after 5 days on the IPOs... I have close to 30 days on a set of Cartels with no marks on the ladders at all. I haven't made a issue out of it yet.
I do love these bindings though more and more all the time... I almost want to buy a second pair for my other board.
Yeah I'm hoping they see a known problem and source a tougher plastic for replacement ladders. Love the bindings regardless though...the super damp ride is awesome
my straps are adjusted fine, and I don't tighten them any more than I do with my Cartels, which show no signs of wear at all. I understand why you might jump to that conclusion but obviously others are having the same issue so I don't think it's operator error. It's not rocket science to understand how binding straps function.
I think it's a bit better for both, not huge difference for me, but some. I still wish they were canted a bit.
On another note...got an email back from NOW and they are sending me some new ladders, they also said they are aware of the issue with the ladders and are working on improvements for next season. Sounds good to me.
I inquired and JF sent this note over. Sounds like they are fixing it for this season not next season - good news!
This JF Pelchat the inventor and Owner of NOW, thanks for reaching out. We are aware of this issue and we are making new parts (ankle and toe ladders) with new design and material that will be available for all NOW customer for warranty as of February so you don't have to worry about it, we have your back. More info on our website around January 10th, hope this will ease your concerns.
I remember having the same problem with my mission bindings back in 2000, I am glad they are fixing the problem rather then waiting till next years bindings.
They should be updating and replacing them. Obviously the material they used is too soft. Glad they are stepping up to the plate for you guys, You only spent $300 plus!
Had my first day on them today. I am coming from quick entry bindings but dealing with the two straps wasn't that bad. The movement in them is very subtle but I did notice a difference in response. I may try out the soft bushings next time out just to see if they are more noticeable.
Edit: Thinking on them the only real things I might tweak are a hinge of some sort to get the ankle straps out of the way when strapping in, maybe another millimeter or two of travel and a slightly cushier ankle strap but they really are fun to ride.
The promising response from the manufacturer re warranty issues with the ladders gave me the confidence to pick some of these up this year rather than wait until next season.
Got them for $220 with an evo price match so not such a big hit after all. I'm going to put these on an NS Proto. I'll be back to post my impressions in late Jan.
Zumiez had stock of the black Ls on sale for about a week and a half, and luckily that was the colour and size I wanted, so I asked evo to price match since they had a better return policy.
Turns out they also had no sales tax and must have some sort of price beat by 5% policy, so the final total was $223.24.
Wow I'm pretty surprised to learn that a store like Zumiez carried a high-end core product like this. Apparently their buyers are better than I thought!
Rode them with the soft bushings and enjoyed them a lot more. I am probably 215 in all my gear so the soft were really soft. The movement in them was that much more pronounced. I think with the blacks they would be almost imperceptible to regular bindings.Enjoying these more with each run. Gonna run them without the highback next week to see how that feels. I am wondering if Now might put out a bushing even softer than the whites, I would definitely like to try them if they did.
So I have 5 full days on them now. First day with the medium bushings, next three with the soft and the highbacks on and then today went with the soft and no highback. The conditions were probably the worst you could want for that set up, really icy and hardly any features open. I have to say it was still super fun. The binding responds just as well without the high back and I was riding them in a two year old pair of Northwave Freedoms that are a very soft boot.
Towards the end of the day as it iced up more I switched over to a pair of Salomon F22s and my Smoking Mailorder Bride with K2 Uprises. While the board is much damper than the Westmark I have the Nows on you could really feel the advantage in response that the Nows give. It was especially pronounced steering one footed off the lift. Part of it is the the Arbor is easier to twist but I had ridden it with the K2s and the difference is quite noticeable. As far as how they are holding up, mine still look new aside from the Now logo on my back footbed having fallen off.
So I have 5 full days on them now. First day with the medium bushings, next three with the soft and the highbacks on and then today went with the soft and no highback. The conditions were probably the worst you could want for that set up, really icy and hardly any features open. I have to say it was still super fun. The binding responds just as well without the high back and I was riding them in a two year old pair of Northwave Freedoms that are a very soft boot.
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Thanks for your input. I asked questions earlier in the thread regarding going highbackless and it seems no one rode it that way. With the king pin design it seems theoretically you don't really need highbacks.
Yes the flush heel cup and kingpin add enough support and response that they aren't really missed. Plus add that today's boots are stiff enough that it really makes little difference as to if you ride with them or without them. I remember riding friend's boards in the mid 90s with the backs removed or cut right down and this another world as far as feel and response go.
I rode a pair of IPO's today on my Yes Pick Your Line. Definately enjoyed it more as opposed to when I had my Cartels on it. I landed jumps (smaller ones) much better and I just ripped through the pow and chopped pow with confidence. I definately like them alot.
I'm not sure how heavy the C60's are but I can say that these aren't tanks. They are lighter than my Ride Maestro's I had on the board before. I haven't compared them to my Cartels
I have the mediums and they seem to be about the same as my large K2 auto uprise and less than a large Flow M11. Can't speak to the C60s but the Now are far from heavy.
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