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Ratchets and straps from my 2006 P1's are better then 2013 forces. Toe strap is designed in a weird shape, more boxy boot shapes don't fit that good. ratchets don't release until you kung fu whack them. And the P1's have airbags, better pressure distribution on the ankle strap and are 6 years older. Goes to show.... I have my friends forces right here, as well as the P1's. Forces just don't feel good at all.
I agree, but the question was what have they changed over the years.
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Ratchets and straps from my 2006 P1's are better then 2013 forces. Toe strap is designed in a weird shape, more boxy boot shapes don't fit that good. ratchets don't release until you kung fu whack them. And the P1's have airbags, better pressure distribution on the ankle strap and are 6 years older. Goes to show.... I have my friends forces right here, as well as the P1's. Forces just don't feel good at all.


The P1's also retailed for $130 some odd dollars more than the Force.

Sorry guys, don't have time for this today. I can list out many changes to the Force over the years. The only thing we haven't changed is the baseplate tooling. Are we going to do this with all the leading binding models on the market in the past 10 years?

Can somebody just start a new thread? This one is tired.
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lol thats alright, i plan on sticking it out this season with them. im going to call Union INHOUSE later on today to finally go over the issues.
Next season when I get a new deck ill grab a revised set of the now IPO or 390 bosses and see how they compare.
didn't get that call today. It's beer thirty.
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The P1's also retailed for $130 some odd dollars more than the Force.

Sorry guys, don't have time for this today. I can list out many changes to the Force over the years. The only thing we haven't changed is the baseplate tooling. Are we going to do this with all the leading binding models on the market in the past 10 years?

Can somebody just start a new thread? This one is tired.
6 years ago... Cant defend superior bindings, sorry. Try harder next year, and i might consider union. I would start with toe straps that are forward only, nobody uses up top anymore. They provide better support and are way comfier. Next i would do is make the base less bulky, and straps thinner with more design towards anatomy, not piling up enough foam till they don't give any support unless you crank them tight as fuck. You want this tread ended? Showing you actually don't care about feedback. Way to go.
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i support eastside on this one, and i think it is great that we can voice concerns about product and the vendor can choose if they want to chime in or not. that is their call. my thanks goes to moderator for letting it go...

and i would give another shameless plug for ride contraband - no stock in the company - but come on...compared to my flows they are way more locked in, one rachet...like every binding i fit to boot once when i got them and never looked back.
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6 years ago... Cant defend superior bindings, sorry. Try harder next year, and i might consider union. I would start with toe straps that are forward only, nobody uses up top anymore. They provide better support and are way comfier. Next i would do is make the base less bulky, and straps thinner with more design towards anatomy, not piling up enough foam till they don't give any support unless you crank them tight as fuck. You want this tread ended? Showing you actually don't care about feedback. Way to go.
Lol at the troll. Come on man, you were asking to buy Union Forces just a couple days ago.


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Lol at the troll. Come on man, you were asking to buy Union Forces just a couple days ago.
10 dollars? i don't think they are worth anything else. There is a difference from wanting a binding because I need one, and wanting a binding i would pay more for. I wouldn't pay premium for it, but id ride it for 10 bucks...
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Union makes a great product I prefer flux but leaning towards some atlas if i find a good deal . Years ago I had an issue with some straps on my forces and i had to send pics of the issue and file a warranty claim then the same day this kid shows up to my office with new straps . Union hand delivered them. I guess its nice being in Seattle but still they didnt have to go.that far.
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Union makes a great product I prefer flux but leaning towards some atlas if i find a good deal . Years ago I had an issue with some straps on my forces and i had to send pics of the issue and file a warranty claim then the same day this kid shows up to my office with new straps . Union hand delivered them. I guess its nice being in Seattle but still they didnt have to go.that far.
thats a cool story, definitely good customer service, but i do know that if i was to get parts, i was told id have to send my bindings from NJ to Seattle and back..thats at least 1, probably 2 weekends missed for me.

i didnt make this thread to bash Union but more to ask about some other Binding choices going forward. The more research I've done, the more options I've seen that might suit me better. In the meantime, I'd like to keep riding my forces and hoping that Ill get the issues straightened out.

And Union INHOUSE, sorry..i appreciate you keeping involved. Been very busy around here with the constant flooding and the hurricane damage.


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Huge props to UNION for sticking around and staying in touch even if the thread is old and tired.

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