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EatMyTracers · 12-18-2012, 08:40 PM

Any reason no one recommends flux or even talks about them? I have the dmcc light and love them, no problems yet and only heard good things about them when i was researching them.

extra0 · 12-18-2012, 08:50 PM

I rode 2012 cartels last season. Super stoked on the simplicity, dampening and ultra light weight...but re:flex seems a bit loose. I'm gonna keep them for my smaller freestyle/groomer deck, but considering something else for my freeride/powder board.

tonyisnowhere · 12-18-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Extremo

If you're sick of Union, you'll think Flux are complete dog shit. I was impressed with the Cartel's. The 390's are legit, also look at the Raiden Phantom. I'd personally recommend the Union Atlas with a Burton toe cap upgrade.

nice I will look into that idea

deepcove · 12-19-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by East§ide

okay so i've officially had it with the forces. ive disliked them since day 1 and have hated them more and more with every day on the hill. so now i come to my decision..

do i go with :
rome 390's (boss)
ride capo
burton cartel

I want a solid all mountain binding, preferably with canted footbeds.. ive read great things on all 3, so im curious what you guys think? does one have more positives over another? ive only ever ridden cartels out of the three.

any help would be great. thanks

What size are you forces and how much do you want for them?

East§ide · 12-19-2012, 09:42 AM

the forces are L/XL (10+) and i have no idea how much lol. Theyre the acid green colorway. I spoke to a guy at Union yesterday who was suppposed to send me info on where to ship them to get looked at (he was really nice, said that theyd hook it up and replace the toe caps with better ones, ankle straps, high backs, etc.) but i never got any info from him. Hopefully i will soon.
I liked the look of Flux, but i keep hearing big things about the 390's and i love cartels..i threw the capos in there cause id really rather have canted footbeds if possible.

Joe Coffee · 12-19-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by East§ide

the forces are L/XL (10+) and i have no idea how much lol. Theyre the acid green colorway. I spoke to a guy at Union yesterday who was suppposed to send me info on where to ship them to get looked at (he was really nice, said that theyd hook it up and replace the toe caps with better ones, ankle straps, high backs, etc.) but i never got any info from him. Hopefully i will soon.
I liked the look of Flux, but i keep hearing big things about the 390's and i love cartels..i threw the capos in there cause id really rather have canted footbeds if possible.

Theres awesome customer service for you. Stick with union. Just try a different model.

East§ide · 12-19-2012, 10:21 AM

it was great customer service, except that i still havent heard from them! hopefully i will. the big issue is that while theyre being sent across the country, im kinda beat on riding until i get them back. but hey, it is what it is

Nivek · 12-19-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Extremo

Union's new split toe is the same thing that Rome is offering on the 390. And it's better than any other split out there (Raiden, Now, K2) and lasts longer than Ride's rubber web that breaks apart within a season and turns into a shitty version of the split cap anyways.

bahahaha same as Romes. That's cute. If its better than any other toe strap out there why is it we only hear about the Union strap not fitting boots? I have yet to hear anyone complain about K2's (which by the way on the Formula and up has individual adjustment for the top and bottom portion), I haven't heard anyone complain about the Raidens either. Picking on NOW? A first year product? Oh and even for a first year product I was more impressed than with Union. Yeah Rides web breaks, and somehow it doesn't effect the functionality. Which is why it"s the most popular mod to Unions.

Nice try.

Union needs to bring back the gen2 strap or shrink the one they have by 25%.

And your comment about Flux, why is it no one complains about their toe strap? Or toe ratchet? Or anything really? Oh right, cause anyone that doesn't like Union is just a hater.

Nivek · 12-19-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EatMyTracers

Any reason no one recommends flux or even talks about them? I have the dmcc light and love them, no problems yet and only heard good things about them when i was researching them.

Well in this case the OP said canted. Flux doesn't do that yet. Otherwise yeah, the DMCC Lights are awesome and one of my favorite binddings.

East§ide · 12-19-2012, 11:39 AM

i find it hilarious to compare Unions toe caps to ANYONE else's. For a binding specific company, it baffles me that their toe caps have ZERO rubber or anything to allow for friction on the inside. Instead, you get this goofy leather that looses any friction whatsoever as soon as it gets wet. Ive debated just buying burton toe caps to put on them, but I think its a shame that this "awesome" binding company needs toe caps just to make them work. Ive compared with ride, rome, flux, burton, k2, even gnu..every single toe cap makes more sense.

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East§ide Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 807 Blog Entries: 1	the forces are L/XL (10+) and i have no idea how much lol. Theyre the acid green colorway. I spoke to a guy at Union yesterday who was suppposed to send me info on where to ship them to get looked at (he was really nice, said that theyd hook it up and replace the toe caps with better ones, ankle straps, high backs, etc.) but i never got any info from him. Hopefully i will soon. I liked the look of Flux, but i keep hearing big things about the 390's and i love cartels..i threw the capos in there cause id really rather have canted footbeds if possible. __________________ Never Summer Evo 153/Restricted ReFlex Cartel Gnu Danny Kass 156 BTX

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East§ide Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 807 Blog Entries: 1	it was great customer service, except that i still havent heard from them! hopefully i will. the big issue is that while theyre being sent across the country, im kinda beat on riding until i get them back. but hey, it is what it is __________________ Never Summer Evo 153/Restricted ReFlex Cartel Gnu Danny Kass 156 BTX

12-19-2012, 11:39 AM	#30 (permalink)
East§ide Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 807 Blog Entries: 1	i find it hilarious to compare Unions toe caps to ANYONE else's. For a binding specific company, it baffles me that their toe caps have ZERO rubber or anything to allow for friction on the inside. Instead, you get this goofy leather that looses any friction whatsoever as soon as it gets wet. Ive debated just buying burton toe caps to put on them, but I think its a shame that this "awesome" binding company needs toe caps just to make them work. Ive compared with ride, rome, flux, burton, k2, even gnu..every single toe cap makes more sense. __________________ Never Summer Evo 153/Restricted ReFlex Cartel Gnu Danny Kass 156 BTX

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12-18-2012, 08:40 PM	#21 (permalink)
EatMyTracers Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 224	Any reason no one recommends flux or even talks about them? I have the dmcc light and love them, no problems yet and only heard good things about them when i was researching them.

12-18-2012, 08:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
extra0 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: CA Posts: 582	I rode 2012 cartels last season. Super stoked on the simplicity, dampening and ultra light weight...but re:flex seems a bit loose. I'm gonna keep them for my smaller freestyle/groomer deck, but considering something else for my freeride/powder board.