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finally sick of the unions

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#1 ·
okay so i've officially had it with the forces. ive disliked them since day 1 and have hated them more and more with every day on the hill. so now i come to my decision..

do i go with :
rome 390's (boss)
ride capo
burton cartel

I want a solid all mountain binding, preferably with canted footbeds.. ive read great things on all 3, so im curious what you guys think? does one have more positives over another? ive only ever ridden cartels out of the three.

any help would be great. thanks
 
#5 ·
Well take your pick for your riding style, they're just really good bindings.
SF45s are the stiffer ones
TT30s/RK30s are more or less the same except RK30s have a urethane high back giving you a lot more flex.
I think TT30s are nylon highbacks but they still flex a bit. I have TT30s and i really like them.
 
#10 ·
As a "warning" the Cartel isnt what it has been the last few years. I feel like it's back to being the freestyle dominator it used to be. Where the last few years its been more all mountain almost freeride feeling. Really awesome now though. For me it's the best Carte I've been in.

For a killer deal look at the K2 Formula. Everything you want in a light responsive package. Still the team favorite. For a bit of a skatey feel the new Salomon Holograms are fantastick and what I'll be riding this year along with Flow NX2 SE's.

So of your original List, Cartels.
 
#12 ·
i have the burton Cartels and i have like 6 days on them. I absolutely love them. I ride a lot of park and like to also ride groomers and glades. The binding has just the right flex for when i want to do some jibbing to bombing the groomers. It is just an all around perfect binding. oh and it also has what they call a "get a grip toe strap" It is a toe strap that has some sort of rubber on the inside that keeps your boot from slipping out. I give it a double :thumbsup:
 
#17 ·
At union - Your toe cap stinks, and the worst of all, you haven't fixed it yet. saw a guy today with union toe strap on so awkwardly that i busted out laughing.

OP - Burton are awesome, but today i looked at 2013 drake bindings, and they looked sick. I haven't tried em yet, but the base foam was soft, air bag for heel and the strap was super comfy and toe looked like it would work better. Tho you cant go wrong with cartels. What im picking up for my camel toe.
 
#25 ·
the forces are L/XL (10+) and i have no idea how much lol. Theyre the acid green colorway. I spoke to a guy at Union yesterday who was suppposed to send me info on where to ship them to get looked at (he was really nice, said that theyd hook it up and replace the toe caps with better ones, ankle straps, high backs, etc.) but i never got any info from him. Hopefully i will soon.
I liked the look of Flux, but i keep hearing big things about the 390's and i love cartels..i threw the capos in there cause id really rather have canted footbeds if possible.
 
#26 ·
the forces are L/XL (10+) and i have no idea how much lol. Theyre the acid green colorway. I spoke to a guy at Union yesterday who was suppposed to send me info on where to ship them to get looked at (he was really nice, said that theyd hook it up and replace the toe caps with better ones, ankle straps, high backs, etc.) but i never got any info from him. Hopefully i will soon.
I liked the look of Flux, but i keep hearing big things about the 390's and i love cartels..i threw the capos in there cause id really rather have canted footbeds if possible.
Theres awesome customer service for you. Stick with union. Just try a different model.
 
#27 ·
it was great customer service, except that i still havent heard from them! hopefully i will. the big issue is that while theyre being sent across the country, im kinda beat on riding until i get them back. but hey, it is what it is
 
#30 ·
i find it hilarious to compare Unions toe caps to ANYONE else's. For a binding specific company, it baffles me that their toe caps have ZERO rubber or anything to allow for friction on the inside. Instead, you get this goofy leather that looses any friction whatsoever as soon as it gets wet. Ive debated just buying burton toe caps to put on them, but I think its a shame that this "awesome" binding company needs toe caps just to make them work. Ive compared with ride, rome, flux, burton, k2, even gnu..every single toe cap makes more sense.
 
#42 ·
They hold my toe in place, perfectly fine. I don't need anything more than that.

haha why do you need friction on the inside, if you place them properly over the toe, it's going to hold it down, regardless of any "rubber" inside.


and it's completely laughable that you claim that Gnu has better toe caps than Union. That alone makes your post, and your opinion irrelevant for being such a dumb twat.
 
#33 ·
would you go with those or canted re:flex cartels? i think thats basically where im at now. which do you think would be more comfortable long term? it looks like their hinging system kind of makes up for not being canted but it all seems like alot of tech speak
 
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