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bpow · 12-23-2012, 05:31 PM

So looks like im going formulas or phantoms. I have to buy online and have found some med formulas but unsure if they will fit my size 9 boots. Can anyone confirm i will need large or will get by with mediums?
Thanks all

Nivek · 12-23-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bpow

So looks like im going formulas or phantoms. I have to buy online and have found some med formulas but unsure if they will fit my size 9 boots. Can anyone confirm i will need large or will get by with mediums?
Thanks all

Medium fits 8-11

bpow · 12-23-2012, 07:48 PM

Just checking as the size chart shows medium goes up to 8 while large starts at 8? Still considering the phantoms at this point as large formulas are harder for me to find.

Nivek · 12-23-2012, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpow

Just checking as the size chart shows medium goes up to 8 while large starts at 8? Still considering the phantoms at this point as large formulas are harder for me to find.

Right sorry, large is 8-11. Eveyone uses different sizes, I get confused sometimes.

bpow · 01-08-2013, 05:07 AM

Hey again
Had my mind set on formula's but cant find any my size at a good price. But have found some companies. Can anyone tell me how they compare? I also have found some blackhawks and 390 bosses at around the same price! Any better than the other? Or i could save $80 and get some phantoms? Any help would be great. What would you pick and why?

bseracka · 01-08-2013, 10:39 AM

Blackhawks are stiffer then the phantoms and have canting

bpow · 01-08-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bseracka

Blackhawks are a little softer then the phantoms and have canting

Thanks. I thought the phantoms were more freestyle and would be softer than the blackhawks? Im keen to try canted binding but am still tempted by the phantoms. Having a hard time deciding as i can get the phantoms cheaper than the others. Can anyone comment on the k2 company bindings ?

Nivek · 01-08-2013, 03:12 PM

Blackhawks are definitely stiffer than Phantoms, not a ton, but stiffer. And the Company is the stiffest in the K2 line. In between the Phantom and Machine.

jdang307 · 01-08-2013, 04:39 PM

That totally trips me out, as bsercka post says softer while the quote says stiffer (yes I know it was edited).

Blackhawks are considered a stiffer binding but I found them softer than the 390 boss. That's just my own experience.

I'm still shocked at how stiff/responsive the 390 Bosses are. The blackhawks are nice. Canting, comfortable and not terribly stiff. I paired it up with a Coda.

I wish it had airbags because I really want to try them out but the Blackhawks were a good binding. Great ratchets too. My favorite so far.

cjcameron11 · 01-08-2013, 06:33 PM

I haven't ridden the blackhawks but i have owned the boss's and own the phantoms now and i can't believe the 390's are stiffer than the blackhawks. To me the 390's are waaaaay softer than the phantoms, like a shit load softer. I switched the 390's after 2 days for the targas (which are similar to phantoms but a tad stiffer).

01-08-2013, 10:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
bseracka Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 592	Blackhawks are stiffer then the phantoms and have canting Last edited by bseracka; 01-08-2013 at 03:32 PM. Reason: bad info

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Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	Blackhawks are definitely stiffer than Phantoms, not a ton, but stiffer. And the Company is the stiffest in the K2 line. In between the Phantom and Machine. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

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cjcameron11 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 725	I haven't ridden the blackhawks but i have owned the boss's and own the phantoms now and i can't believe the 390's are stiffer than the blackhawks. To me the 390's are waaaaay softer than the phantoms, like a shit load softer. I switched the 390's after 2 days for the targas (which are similar to phantoms but a tad stiffer). __________________ my names's Petey and i have gigantic balls

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12-23-2012, 05:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
bpow Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 23	So looks like im going formulas or phantoms. I have to buy online and have found some med formulas but unsure if they will fit my size 9 boots. Can anyone confirm i will need large or will get by with mediums? Thanks all

12-23-2012, 07:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
bpow Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 23	Just checking as the size chart shows medium goes up to 8 while large starts at 8? Still considering the phantoms at this point as large formulas are harder for me to find.

01-08-2013, 05:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
bpow Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 23	Hey again Had my mind set on formula's but cant find any my size at a good price. But have found some companies. Can anyone tell me how they compare? I also have found some blackhawks and 390 bosses at around the same price! Any better than the other? Or i could save $80 and get some phantoms? Any help would be great. What would you pick and why?

01-08-2013, 04:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
jdang307 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,063	That totally trips me out, as bsercka post says softer while the quote says stiffer (yes I know it was edited). Blackhawks are considered a stiffer binding but I found them softer than the 390 boss. That's just my own experience. I'm still shocked at how stiff/responsive the 390 Bosses are. The blackhawks are nice. Canting, comfortable and not terribly stiff. I paired it up with a Coda. I wish it had airbags because I really want to try them out but the Blackhawks were a good binding. Great ratchets too. My favorite so far.