adjusting high back angle problem - Snowboarding Forum

kusanagi · 12-26-2012, 02:55 AM

I got a pair of new burton cartels.

My front leg has a 24degree stance angle. I am adjusting the highback of my front binding to make it become parallel to the board edge. But the highback is manufactured to a shape that it is parallel to the binding.

Should I use brutal force to make a 24degree shift and slightly change its shape?
but then the center of the high back (where the + - sign is) is 1cm above the rack even if I pushed it down it just recoils back up

hktrdr · 12-27-2012, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kusanagi

I got a pair of new burton cartels.

My front leg has a 24degree stance angle. I am adjusting the highback of my front binding to make it become parallel to the board edge. But the highback is manufactured to a shape that it is parallel to the binding.

Should I use brutal force to make a 24degree shift and slightly change its shape?
but then the center of the high back (where the + - sign is) is 1cm above the rack even if I pushed it down it just recoils back up

What do you mean it "is manufactured to a shape that it is parallel to the binding"? You can rotate the highback, so that it is not parallel/perpendicular (depending on how you look at it) to the binding by loosening the two screws were the highback attached to the baseplate (check the manual).

phony_stark · 12-27-2012, 05:06 PM

Yeah, rotate your highback. There are screws that attach the baseplate to the highback (in the back of the baseplate) loosen those screws and rotate until the highback is parallel to the board.

that +/- thing I believe is for forward lean adjustment.

timmytard · 12-28-2012, 02:01 AM

I think I know what he means? I was just fuckin' around with mine a week ago.

When you rotate the highback most or all the way, it doesn't sit pretty.

& after a few re-writes, this is pretty hard to accurately explain

It's so twisted, you have to apply force to get it to sit back on the heel cup, not a lot of force, but enough, that when released it pops out

TT

jchaison · 12-28-2012, 11:35 PM

Having similar concerns with my new Genesis bindings on the NS Cobra. When I rotate the highback to parallel the board and then try to tighten it...it loses the parallel or doesn't sit all the way in the heel cup.

Is it worth having a shop set them?

kusanagi · 12-30-2012, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmytard

I think I know what he means? I was just fuckin' around with mine a week ago.

When you rotate the highback most or all the way, it doesn't sit pretty.

& after a few re-writes, this is pretty hard to accurately explain

It's so twisted, you have to apply force to get it to sit back on the heel cup, not a lot of force, but enough, that when released it pops out

TT

exactly thats what i mean. when you rotate it its shape twists and then recoils and never sits on the heel cup. now i can only rotate it tosomewhere halfway like 12 degrees.

kusanagi · 12-30-2012, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hktrdr

What do you mean it "is manufactured to a shape that it is parallel to the binding"? You can rotate the highback, so that it is not parallel/perpendicular (depending on how you look at it) to the binding by loosening the two screws were the highback attached to the baseplate (check the manual).

yeah of course i can rotate it. but then the problem is that it doesnt fit properly with the heel cup after the rotation. it doesnt even sit on the heel cup anymore

dice · 12-30-2012, 01:15 AM

Just did mine on a 2013 Cartels few hours ago!!!

I was able to get the back side (-15) perfectly lined and parallel with the board edge. The front however (+21) , just slightly off!

I know your issue EXACTLY! That's what happened on my old P1.1. But with the new 2013 Cartels what I did was un-screw the outside 1st, rotate that side and tighten. Then move on to the outside screw, undo, rotate, then tighten. It sat over the heel cup PERFECT (to my surprise cause that was always an issue). Once done that, I did my +/- forward lean.

I hope this helps.

Cheers...

kusanagi · 01-04-2013, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dice

Just did mine on a 2013 Cartels few hours ago!!!

I was able to get the back side (-15) perfectly lined and parallel with the board edge. The front however (+21) , just slightly off!

I know your issue EXACTLY! That's what happened on my old P1.1. But with the new 2013 Cartels what I did was un-screw the outside 1st, rotate that side and tighten. Then move on to the outside screw, undo, rotate, then tighten. It sat over the heel cup PERFECT (to my surprise cause that was always an issue). Once done that, I did my +/- forward lean.

I hope this helps.

Cheers...

err which one, outaside or inside, should be the first to adjust??

12-26-2012, 02:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
kusanagi Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 83	adjusting high back angle problem I got a pair of new burton cartels. My front leg has a 24degree stance angle. I am adjusting the highback of my front binding to make it become parallel to the board edge. But the highback is manufactured to a shape that it is parallel to the binding. Should I use brutal force to make a 24degree shift and slightly change its shape? but then the center of the high back (where the + - sign is) is 1cm above the rack even if I pushed it down it just recoils back up Last edited by kusanagi; 12-26-2012 at 03:00 AM.

12-28-2012, 02:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
timmytard Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: I can see Santa shoveling his driveway Posts: 1,356	I think I know what he means? I was just fuckin' around with mine a week ago. When you rotate the highback most or all the way, it doesn't sit pretty. & after a few re-writes, this is pretty hard to accurately explain It's so twisted, you have to apply force to get it to sit back on the heel cup, not a lot of force, but enough, that when released it pops out TT __________________ If whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. Then I am so close to immortality

12-30-2012, 01:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
dice Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal, QC (Canada) Posts: 187	Just did mine on a 2013 Cartels few hours ago!!! I was able to get the back side (-15) perfectly lined and parallel with the board edge. The front however (+21) , just slightly off! I know your issue EXACTLY! That's what happened on my old P1.1. But with the new 2013 Cartels what I did was un-screw the outside 1st, rotate that side and tighten. Then move on to the outside screw, undo, rotate, then tighten. It sat over the heel cup PERFECT (to my surprise cause that was always an issue). Once done that, I did my +/- forward lean. I hope this helps. Cheers... Last edited by dice; 12-30-2012 at 09:25 AM.

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12-27-2012, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
phony_stark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 488	Yeah, rotate your highback. There are screws that attach the baseplate to the highback (in the back of the baseplate) loosen those screws and rotate until the highback is parallel to the board. that +/- thing I believe is for forward lean adjustment.

12-28-2012, 11:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
jchaison Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 48	Having similar concerns with my new Genesis bindings on the NS Cobra. When I rotate the highback to parallel the board and then try to tighten it...it loses the parallel or doesn't sit all the way in the heel cup. Is it worth having a shop set them?