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Bindings For Neversummer SL

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#1 · (Edited)
Title explains it all. This is my style of riding.

I am more all mountain than just the terrain park. I like to hit natural features and be playful - all the while staying on runs. I may do a couple laps in the park, but I tend to shy away from it now. A couple jumps and a few boxes is about it.

I was told to look at the Union SL or Union Atlas. I am not familiar with these. I currently have Burton Missions from 2007-08 but it drives me crazy because I can crank them tight and after a few runs there is this "gap" between the ankle strap and my boot. I'm pretty picky about that - I want it snug and fit with no movement and no choke points on blood flow.

I know to get a binding that fits my boot - however I'd like to narrow it down to 2/3 models to go after for comparison with the boot.

Oh - of course... my boots are Burton Ions from a few years back. They still rock. Size 10 I think? I have forgotten. Between 9.5 and 10.5.
 
#13 ·
I've seen Flux advertised since the days of the Technical Difficulties video back around 2000 - but never really saw anyone or knew anyone with them. They look decent. The problem is being able to test them with my boot. Kind of limited to what's around.
 
#4 ·
Burton Cartels - had these on my SL and they pair really well. I currently have last years Cartels on my Phoenix. They are a good all around binding.

Raiden Phantoms - My buddy has these on his Phoenix. I've only rode them a few times but I was very impressed with how comfortable and cushioned they are. I'm a big fan of the air bags.

Union SL - I currently have these on my Cobra. I've never been a Union guy but figured I'd try em out this year. They are very responsive without being very stiff.
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the replies. I haven't used Flux or Union.

Do the Cartels have the loosening traits like my missions do?

I'm not familiar with the new term of "canting". From what I understand - it is either built into the baseplate of the binding or done through a foam that forms to the legs - giving each foot a slight angle to help the knees?

Is it worth to go after a binding with this?

(Sidenote - I'm also considering a NS Cobra, which combines the proto and SL - so the bindings may go on that board too, but since it is so similar, it should work just the same as with bindings for the SL)
 
#7 ·
I'm not familiar with the new term of "canting". From what I understand - it is either built into the baseplate of the binding or done through a foam that forms to the legs - giving each foot a slight angle to help the knees?

Is it worth to go after a binding with this?
I personally like canting, helps with my feet (get really bad pains) and just makes it more 'natural' and lets me have a wider stance. The K2 Formulas for instance I believe are 3degrees canted (correct me if I'm wrong?) and its the foam footbed that gives it the canting, on the formulas at least.
 
#11 ·
I have a Legacy, the wide SL.

I went with the Burton Cartels but was seriously considering the K2 Formulas.

The Cartels have auto-canting, not the traditional canted footbeds. Basically the instep of the footbed is made of softer material that gives more than the outside edge of the footbeds. I like them and find them super comfortable.

I do find myself tightening the forward foot binding after a bunch of runs, literally just one click of the ratchet every few hours on the ankle and toe cap. Nothing crazy.
 
#12 ·
I think the main problem with my bindings (07/09 missions) that I found was that even with adjusting both the buckle and the side option on the straps, it still wasn't tight enough... it was as far as it can go but I still found some "wiggle". They are a medium binding.
 
#18 ·
I found the Rome 390 BOSS worked well with the SL for a mix of park and freeride, but got rid of them because the toecap didn't fit my boot (Nitro) well and kept sliding off. I ended up switching to a pair of Burton CO2s and I like them (there are a little bit stiffer though, and I generally like more responsive gear as before the 390 BOSS I had a pair of Burton C60s on it).
 
#20 ·
Is it worth it spending the money on new bindings versus my current ones? I'm trying to save a bit of cash... not sure if the upgrade of $250 is worth it from my 2008 Burton Missions to a newer set. :dizzy:

My options are limited. I like the idea of auto-canting, however I'd have to spend $300 on burton cartels in Canada. I can get a set of Union SLs or Atlas for around $260.
 
#21 ·
If your Missions are still in good shape, they should be a pretty decent match for the SL. The SL is such a great "middle of the road" board and is so versatile that you really can get away with damn near anything. I just personally don't like putting a super stiff binding on a softer flexing board; tends to make it very touch at higher speeds.
A stiffer binding makes things sketchy at high speed? Is this because you cannot "feel" the board the same way?
 
#22 ·
Its not that really. Its like driving a car very sensitive power steering at very high 100 MPH plus speeds. The stiff binding transfers more of your movements directly to the board which makes it very responsive. When you are going fast on a board, all of your body movements have a lot more affect on board performance. So, if you have a fairly soft board; especially torsionally, a stiff binding will make the control very very touchy. It becomes extremely easy to oversteer.
Good explanation. Thank you. Also sent you a PM some time ago - check your inbox :laugh:
 
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