Union vs Flux - Snowboarding Forum

googs185 · 01-04-2013, 09:35 AM

So I've narrowed my choices down to the Union Contact Pro and the Flux TT30. I love riding park, but I also do a lot of freeriding and like to bomb powder runs and also encounter icy conditions over here on the east coast. Which would be the best option for me? Is the lower highback on the Flux an issue? Is it true that the union binding ratchets slip? Thanks!

Triple8Sol · 01-04-2013, 10:20 AM

Flux TT30 (which I just sold) is one of my favorite bindings I've owned for true all mountain use. More than Cartels, and way more than Forces. I moved away from Flux this year b/c of their lack of canted footbeds, but Union doesn't do that either, so that's not really an issue for you.

googs185 · 01-04-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol

Flux TT30 (which I just sold) is one of my favorite bindings I've owned for true all mountain use. More than Cartels, and way more than Forces. I moved away from Flux this year b/c of their lack of canted footbeds, but Union doesn't do that either, so that's not really an issue for you.

So you think the TT30s beat out the Contact Pros? Why did you sell them?

Extremo · 01-04-2013, 11:23 AM

I would stay away from the Contact Pro's if you plan on doing any aggressive freeriding. Their baseplate design isn't meant to be responsive. I'd stay away from Flux period. The baseplate feels clunky and the ankle strap design is sub par. If you go Union try the Atlas or the Force. If you're looking at other brands look at the Cartel, Raiden Phantom, Rome 390 Boss, Ride Rodeo. Can't go wrong with any of those.

phony_stark · 01-04-2013, 11:25 AM

If you like riding park, but also like freeriding the contact pro is perfect. Super lightweight, forgiving enough for park, soft enough for a surfy feel in p0w but stiff enough to handle free riding.

The Union binding ratchets don't slip at all, in fact, some people have an issue with them being harder to take off than other bindings. Which, isn't a big deal at all, and is pretty comforting if you ask me.

Atlas is my favorite binding ever though, give that a look as well.

googs185 · 01-04-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by phony_stark

If you like riding park, but also like freeriding the contact pro is perfect. Super lightweight, forgiving enough for park, soft enough for a surfy feel in p0w but stiff enough to handle free riding.

The Union binding ratchets don't slip at all, in fact, some people have an issue with them being harder to take off than other bindings. Which, isn't a big deal at all, and is pretty comforting if you ask me.

Atlas is my favorite binding ever though, give that a look as well.

The Atlas is pretty stiff though, right? And when it comes down to it..how big of a difference does the stiffness make? Its more rider, right?

phony_stark · 01-04-2013, 11:36 AM

Nah, the atlas isn't stiff at all, to me. It's in between the contact pro and forces as far as response, which makes it really versatile. I think when I first got them, I described them as softer, but responsive when you need them to be.

And you're right, googs, it's 90% rider 10% gear.

Extremo · 01-04-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by phony_stark

If you like riding park, but also like freeriding the contact pro is perfect. Super lightweight, forgiving enough for park, soft enough for a surfy feel in p0w but stiff enough to handle free riding.

The Union binding ratchets don't slip at all, in fact, some people have an issue with them being harder to take off than other bindings. Which, isn't a big deal at all, and is pretty comforting if you ask me.

Atlas is my favorite binding ever though, give that a look as well.

The contact pro is a jib oriented park binding. It's not for freeriding.

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Originally Posted by googs185

The Atlas is pretty stiff though, right? And when it comes down to it..how big of a difference does the stiffness make? Its more rider, right?

The Atlas baseplate is as stiff as the Force but it has a softer highback and softer ankle straps. If you're spending more time in the park I'd recommend the Atlas, if you're spending more time riding the entire mountain then get the Force.

61ragtop · 01-04-2013, 12:58 PM

I wanted a binding this year that was good for all round riding (park, pow, groomers....) I went with the Flux DS30 and love them!! response for carving is great and still good flex for freestylin. Just my 2 cents.

My choice was between the DS30 and Contact Pro and everytime i tried the toe ratchets in the store the contact pro's were sticky, DS30's like butter that was my decision maker.

For a lighter mor responsive Flux alternative is the DMCC light. I am not a huge charger so opted not to pay the extra for them.

linvillegorge · 01-04-2013, 01:02 PM

I have a serious man crush on Flux bindings. The TT30s are my favorite all-around bindings.

01-04-2013, 09:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
googs185 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7	Union vs Flux So I've narrowed my choices down to the Union Contact Pro and the Flux TT30. I love riding park, but I also do a lot of freeriding and like to bomb powder runs and also encounter icy conditions over here on the east coast. Which would be the best option for me? Is the lower highback on the Flux an issue? Is it true that the union binding ratchets slip? Thanks!

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01-04-2013, 11:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
Extremo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NH Posts: 3,116	I would stay away from the Contact Pro's if you plan on doing any aggressive freeriding. Their baseplate design isn't meant to be responsive. I'd stay away from Flux period. The baseplate feels clunky and the ankle strap design is sub par. If you go Union try the Atlas or the Force. If you're looking at other brands look at the Cartel, Raiden Phantom, Rome 390 Boss, Ride Rodeo. Can't go wrong with any of those.

01-04-2013, 11:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
phony_stark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 488	If you like riding park, but also like freeriding the contact pro is perfect. Super lightweight, forgiving enough for park, soft enough for a surfy feel in p0w but stiff enough to handle free riding. The Union binding ratchets don't slip at all, in fact, some people have an issue with them being harder to take off than other bindings. Which, isn't a big deal at all, and is pretty comforting if you ask me. Atlas is my favorite binding ever though, give that a look as well.

01-04-2013, 11:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
phony_stark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 488	Nah, the atlas isn't stiff at all, to me. It's in between the contact pro and forces as far as response, which makes it really versatile. I think when I first got them, I described them as softer, but responsive when you need them to be. And you're right, googs, it's 90% rider 10% gear.

01-04-2013, 12:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
61ragtop Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Langley Posts: 87	I wanted a binding this year that was good for all round riding (park, pow, groomers....) I went with the Flux DS30 and love them!! response for carving is great and still good flex for freestylin. Just my 2 cents. My choice was between the DS30 and Contact Pro and everytime i tried the toe ratchets in the store the contact pro's were sticky, DS30's like butter that was my decision maker. For a lighter mor responsive Flux alternative is the DMCC light. I am not a huge charger so opted not to pay the extra for them.