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Old 01-08-2013, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm pretty new to snowboarding... this is my third season. This summer I bought all new gear and am still trying to dial it in. I've had 4 full days this season so have had a lot of opportunities to make adjustments. I found that after a full day that my calves were really sore from fighting the angle of my bindings with where set to 15 degrees up from and 5 in the back. I made the angles less severe eventually ending up at 0 degrees front and back foot. After doing that I had my best days riding and found it was the most comfortable riding I've ever done. I don't have major hanging over for the front or back of my feet so thats no problem. I've seen all kinds of stuff on this site and on others saying 0 degrees is a bad setup but it really works for me... any opinions? Am I gonna die??? ;-)
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've ridden 0/0 before if that's ultimately the most comfortable for you then have at it. I think in the long run you'll get excessive torque on your leading knee but if it works for you, it works.

Otherwise calf pain could be due to a few reasons first and most obvious is that you're using them more intensely than you normally due, (i.e., you're just not yet in good "boarding" shape early in the season). Another obvious culprit is forward lean. On most (all?) bindings you should have the ability to relax the forward lean. I'd turn it down to 0 or as close to 0 as it allows. You don't need it, and that will alleviate stress on your calf muscles.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Heck yeah riding at 0 degrees is ok! It all depends on you and what is more comfortable for you. If you feel comfortable when you ride at 0 degrees then who cares what anyone else thinks? Unfortunately, most people that ride with their feet ducked out are only doing it because they think it looks cool or because their favorite pro rides like that. They don't understand the actual mechanics behind it. I ride at 15 and -12 for my wider stance because with my feet that wide it would tweak my knees too much to keep them straight up and down at 0. With a narrower stance I might change my degrees to 12 and -12 or 12 and -9 or something like that. Everyone is different. A lot of times in the snowboarding magazines they will interview a pro and list his or her configuration and you'll notice that it varies a lot between the riders and the type of riding that they do. Good luck and happy shredding
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys. I have my highbacks set with no lean. I found that i was fighting the bindings from within my boots... my feet naturally wanted to straighten out and it was creating pressure points where I was twisting against my boots. I'm definitely not in good boarding shape as I'm pretty wiped out after a full day but my soreness is definitely less at 0. i may try a less sever angle and try again at some point this season
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Even slightly toed out is a much more natural stance, but some people are pigeon toed or could have other conditions making them more comfortable at 0/0...

If it works for you, go with it, but if you haven't tried yet, try something mild like -3/+3 or -6/+6 and see if it's better.

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I am bow legged as hell so 0 stance wouldn't ever work for me. That being said, if it makes you ride better, then go for it. Just keep tweeking it in the future, your preference might change as your riding progresses.


I ride a duck 15 15, or 17 17 depending on the conditions, but I ride switch as much as I ride regular.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The nice thing about snowboarding is that you can do whatever feels best

It doesn't matter, there are no rules to HOW you should ride. You don't have an "out-of-bounds" line or a uniform restriction like other sports

If you wanna rock 0/0 then go ahead.

I, for one am a natural stanced, goofy footed freestyle park/urban rider.

so (get this!) I actually rock a massive 30/25

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I do a slightly ducked stance 15/10. Works for me.
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The nice thing about snowboarding is that you can do whatever feels best

It doesn't matter, there are no rules to HOW you should ride. You don't have an "out-of-bounds" line or a uniform restriction like other sports

If you wanna rock 0/0 then go ahead.

I, for one am a natural stanced, goofy footed freestyle park/urban rider.

so (get this!) I actually rock a massive 30/25

pic related!

Cheers to having it your way!
You have got to have some messed up legs for 30/-25 to be comfortable. No normal person's stance should be like that.
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You have got to have some messed up legs for 30/-25 to be comfortable. No normal person's stance should be like that.
Na, actually it's pretty comfortable for a rider who places emphasis on the front leg when I can. Duck stance like that allows me to allocate pressure on either side more easily, considering it feels natural for my feet to point in the direction I'm facing.
In essence, It's easier to place weight on the balls of my feet than the side of my feet. Not only that, but because of this, it feels more stable than a 15/-15.
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