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Old 01-13-2013, 06:24 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Sorry to sound like a dick, but if you'd been around this forum for any length of time, you'd know the Union/Anti-Union debate has been heated for a long long time. It was once Burton/Anti-Burton (talk about fucking childish).

I'm all for a good brand battle, whatever floats your board. But some people know the difference between a newb having trouble figuring something out for the first time, and a legitimate design flaw. My ranting was aimed at the latter.
Even if it is not a design flaw...dont you think at the very least union should include a note of this in their instruction sheet? Personally I think everyone should buy and use whatever bindings make them happy. We all have things that are deal breakers for us...this design (whether is is flawed or not) is going to be a deal breaker for some people. Would having them add a lever be a deal breaker for you? If not...then why shouldnt union do what they can to make as many people happy as possible? Personally the paint issue is a bigger deal to me. And you can all call me stupid or whatever for saying that. Why even bother putting paint on them if it is only going to start chipping and looking like crap on day 1? THAT is a design or quality control flaw.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:30 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Had I not known there were sites like this out there I would have popped those babies right back in the box and exchanged them for the purple burtons I was looking at in the same trip. Why is is such a BFD to you for them to put a simple stupid peice of plastic there to help out some newbies or some people who may have never rocked a union binding before? Or at the very least make mention of the mechanism in the instructions that come in the box?
And you do realize you would have had to figure out how to release your Burton toe strap the exact same way right? That's how life works sometimes, you just have to figure some shit out on your own. Some people decide to bitch about it instead. Glad you're not one of them...
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:03 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Even if it is not a design flaw...dont you think at the very least union should include a note of this in their instruction sheet? Personally I think everyone should buy and use whatever bindings make them happy. We all have things that are deal breakers for us...this design (whether is is flawed or not) is going to be a deal breaker for some people. Would having them add a lever be a deal breaker for you? If not...then why shouldnt union do what they can to make as many people happy as possible? Personally the paint issue is a bigger deal to me. And you can all call me stupid or whatever for saying that. Why even bother putting paint on them if it is only going to start chipping and looking like crap on day 1? THAT is a design or quality control flaw.
put your pants over your binding if it bothers your that much, no one's looking at them anyway. ride more, care less about cosmetic.

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Old 01-13-2013, 07:09 PM   #54 (permalink)
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put your pants over your binding if it bothers your that much, no one's looking at them anyway.
My point, again, is that if I am spending that much money on something I should not have to put my pants over them. Yes, they are good bindngs. I am not bothered enough by it that I want to take them back (yet).

And people DO look at them. I have had at least 5 different people tell me how nice they are and ask me where I got them. Paint chips are not bad yet...but make me worry about what they will look like by the end of the season. Last car accident I had didnt do any mechanical damage...but I still didnt want to drive around with a big ass dent in my car. Guess that makes me superficial.

I get that a lot of people would not be bothered by it. But I expect certian things when I spend money on them. If they had been half the price I would be half as worried about it.
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Paint chips are not bad yet...but make me worry about what they will look like by the end of the season. Last car accident I had didnt do any mechanical damage...but I still didnt want to drive around with a big ass dent in my car. Guess that makes me superficial.
You are not superficial. However, you are falling into ice and snow... this will scratch and chip your bindings. Just as driving your car repeatedly into snow banks would damage your car.

All bindings are going to incur cosmetic damage... it's unavoidable Unions hold up better than Rome and not quite as good as Burton (from a cosmetic standpoint) but you will never purchase a binding/board that does not show wear after use. None of these cosmetic issues effect how products perform so you have to accept it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:40 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Some of y'all are funny... I totally agree.. I payed 250+ for these Union SL's and after one day of riding the paint was already starting to chip off pretty bad .. That didn't happen on any of my others... (Burton or Ride) so it's not normal or acceptable.. Some of us like for our ish to look good ! Especially after paying all of that money for it !
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extremo you dick-riding fanboy freak... your gaping butthole must be a bloody mess with all the Union dick you ride.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:20 AM   #58 (permalink)
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extremo you dick-riding fanboy freak... your gaping butthole must be a bloody mess with all the Union dick you ride.
dude, you totally got him! zing!

I'm kinda new around these parts, but dayam, get over yourselves people. Ride what you want to ride, like what you want to like, like more than one brand. Your experience is different from everyone else. So you having a bad experience doesn't mean everyone is going to have a bad experience.

I have a set of Contact Pro bindings that I love. I got them for almost half off recently. I almost didn't get them because I felt like the ratchet was sticking a bit in the store (and I had also read about this one lots of sites). I gambled anyway. now that they're on the board, I don't really notice the sticking much. they certainly don't release like my Burton bindings (Custom/Triad/P1) or my Rome Targas did. However, I also don't think they are so difficult to release that I gotta go piss in someone's cornflakes.

Jennifer - Have you tried making a warranty claim? If they're chipping so bad trying going that route. Wouldn't hurt anything. Hopefully, you won't have to go without bindings. Maybe try the shop you bought them from and see if they will do something about it. I think you're right, if you spent the money on them, you should expect them to look good. Bindings aren't exactly wear parts like tires or something. Sure they take a beating, but they're not supposed to just crumble to nothing.

I like bindings from Burton, Union, Rome, K2, Ride and anyone else that is going to offer some features that I like. No reason to go brand bashing.

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Old 01-14-2013, 06:47 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I already know I am going to get a bunch of crap for this question...but I dont care. You think if I sent mine out to be powder coated it would void my union warranty? Think that would solve my issue with the paint chipping?
Sorry, I wasn't giving you crap. I was actually agreeing with you. If you pay that much money for a product, whether or not it's a pair of bindings, the paint on the metal parts should not start chipping off that soon.

One day on a bunny hill is just too early. I went an entire season last year and the paint on the heel loop only started to chip off after a really icy day in CO (This was over Spring Break so it was one of my last days of the season.)

It did chip off the toe ratchets a little before, but that didn't bother me because at that point I'd been using them for while. One day on the bunny hill sounds ridiculous.
Exactly what binding model and color are they? Also, where on the bindings did the paint chip off? Sometimes, in manufacturing, some paint colors can be weaker than others.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:55 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Hey, i just borrowed a pair of these off a friend, took me a few goes to figure out how to use them but theyre not that hard at all and are made pretty well ergonomically for your hand to release them.

They feel sturdy like theyre not gonna just come off by accident too which i like.

Admittedly at the first attempt i thought 'woah its stuck, have i broken it?' once you learn how to operate it as it was intended its really a very nice and SECURE system.
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