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Old 01-14-2013, 05:45 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Honestly, what do people expect? Do you go back to your car dealership and complain because a piece of road gravel chipped your paint? This is snowboarding and just like with your car, things are going to hit your gear. If you want it to look pristine, then don't ride. If it bothers you that much, stick to matte colors. Anything with any amount of gloss is going chip.
I think the issue people are having is that rocks aren't hitting the car so to speak. The paint is falling off in the driveway, and if that is the case you are bloody right I am going to talk to the dealer about it.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:04 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Again...for those who are having a hard time reading or understanding the paint problem. I have spent less than 5 hours on this set of bindings...on a very mellow 50 foot bunny hill. So yeah...I think my complaint is valid. Just because you dont mind your stuff looking like poo after that very minimal amount of use does not mean the rest of us are ok with it. Maybe if people expected better from some companies they would actually meet those expectations.

I am not usually a complainer. I actually originally mentioned the paint as a side note to the discussion. Because that bothers me more than the ratchet issue....which for me has not been a huge issue.

I am not a retard, or someone who expects their gear to stay pristine forever. I did however expect it to last more than 5 hours on a nearly flat bunny hill. There are no rocks, no ice, nothing hitting the bindings. I put my board in a bag when storing it, and for the car ride up to the mountain. I do not carry my board by the bindings or lay it binding side down ever. So I think it is retarted to tell me that I should expect to have paint peeling at ths point.

Also.....as I have said several times, I still like the bindings. I still plan on keeping them. I still like these better than the other 3 pairs I returned. BUT, I did expect them to look nice for a little while. But I guess it is hard for some people to grasp that. If no one gives a crap what their gear looks like then I assume all of you are wearing solid colors with plain black bindings and head to toe monotone. Obviously we all DO care to some extent what we look like. If we didnt they would not sell boards with graphics or pink bindings.
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Again...for those who are having a hard time reading or understanding the paint problem. I have spent less than 5 hours on this set of bindings...on a very mellow 50 foot bunny hill. So yeah...I think my complaint is valid. Just because you dont mind your stuff looking like poo after that very minimal amount of use does not mean the rest of us are ok with it. Maybe if people expected better from some companies they would actually meet those expectations.

I am not usually a complainer. I actually originally mentioned the paint as a side note to the discussion. Because that bothers me more than the ratchet issue....which for me has not been a huge issue.

I am not a retard, or someone who expects their gear to stay pristine forever. I did however expect it to last more than 5 hours on a nearly flat bunny hill. There are no rocks, no ice, nothing hitting the bindings. I put my board in a bag when storing it, and for the car ride up to the mountain. I do not carry my board by the bindings or lay it binding side down ever. So I think it is retarted to tell me that I should expect to have paint peeling at ths point.

Also.....as I have said several times, I still like the bindings. I still plan on keeping them. I still like these better than the other 3 pairs I returned. BUT, I did expect them to look nice for a little while. But I guess it is hard for some people to grasp that. If no one gives a crap what their gear looks like then I assume all of you are wearing solid colors with plain black bindings and head to toe monotone. Obviously we all DO care to some extent what we look like. If we didnt they would not sell boards with graphics or pink bindings.
Or maybe you should just have stayed in ballet.

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Old 01-14-2013, 06:18 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Or maybe you should just have stayed in ballet.

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Maybe....because at least most of those people had class.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I think the issue people are having is that rocks aren't hitting the car so to speak. The paint is falling off in the driveway, and if that is the case you are bloody right I am going to talk to the dealer about it.
No. The paint isn't falling off by itself. They sit in the box or the display shelf, which is the equivalent of your driveway analogy, and the paint remains fine. You drive your bindings off the lot and take it off-roading. Some of us jib, jump, and go rock diving. Even if we aren't doing those things, we are still constantly flexing these bindings putting stress on them all the while they continue to get rocked by vibrations.

So then the paint falls off and people think it did it on its own. Again, the paint stayed on just fine when it was sitting on the shelf or in the box. Not to mention getting shipped around.

Long story short? Who cares?
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Maybe....because at least most of those people had class.
I took my daughter to her 1st ballet class on Saturday. She was so stoked!

Jennifer, I sent you a private message to take care of this.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:08 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Seems like arnyxp got it figured out, right?

PM sent to make sure.

People are crazy on here!
Yeah everything is all good.

crazy how this thread blew up lol... i was just looking for some help

thanks for your reply.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:25 PM   #79 (permalink)
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No. The paint isn't falling off by itself. They sit in the box or the display shelf, which is the equivalent of your driveway analogy, and the paint remains fine. You drive your bindings off the lot and take it off-roading. Some of us jib, jump, and go rock diving. Even if we aren't doing those things, we are still constantly flexing these bindings putting stress on them all the while they continue to get rocked by vibrations.

So then the paint falls off and people think it did it on its own. Again, the paint stayed on just fine when it was sitting on the shelf or in the box. Not to mention getting shipped around.

Long story short? Who cares?
I don't think anyone is saying it is falling off by itself, just that with the lightness of the use so far it sounds like it should be holding up far better. To go back to this car analogy, your paint shouldn't fall off hitting a pothole at normal city speeds. As for who cares, she said she is happy with how they work and that is truly what matters. However when people spend good money they expect a certain quality and Union is a company that likes to place itself in the upper echelon of binding makers. If this were Lamar or some big box brand I could see saying you get what you pay for but people are paying a premium for the Union name and the quality that should come with it. It is nice to see that Union is listening and I commend them for that. Their supporters should take some cues from the way the company has handled themselves in the various Union threads.They are big boys, they don't need their fans going all reactionary and crapping on their reputation.
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No. The paint isn't falling off by itself. They sit in the box or the display shelf, which is the equivalent of your driveway analogy, and the paint remains fine. You drive your bindings off the lot and take it off-roading. Some of us jib, jump, and go rock diving. Even if we aren't doing those things, we are still constantly flexing these bindings putting stress on them all the while they continue to get rocked by vibrations.

So then the paint falls off and people think it did it on its own. Again, the paint stayed on just fine when it was sitting on the shelf or in the box. Not to mention getting shipped around.

Long story short? Who cares?
Actually...the first paint chip was discovered right out of the box. I have been assured that what is happening with mine does not sound like normal wear and tear. If mine is an abnormal case then I have nothing bad to say about the union bindings at all.

Long story short...I care.
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