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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-15-2013, 04:11 AM Thread Starter
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2013 Cartels size problem

Recently bought some 2013 resrticted cartels in Large.

I have rocked 2011 cartels for several seasons and like them a lot, they are also large and I am perfectly centered on the board using the bottom hole on the binding plate (closest to the heel).

That would be with size 11 burton rulers with shrinkage tech.

Problem is the 2013 adjustment holes are not as far from the center leading to less room for adjustment.

Burton recommends large for size 11 boots and there is nothing abnormal about my proto, its not wide or anything.

Here is the heel of my boot with my 2011 cartels from above.

You can also see the holes on the 2013 reflex binding plates verses the 2011.
There is a clear difference on the adjustment range.



Here are the 2013 cartels from exactly the same angle directly above the board.



As you can see there is clearly more boot visible, 2 centimeters to be precise and that means I am 2 centimeters off center.

So I am thinking I need to exchange for medium size bindings, I can't see another solution. That will mean I will be pretty close to maxed out on the straps and the gas pedal which is not ideal IMO.

If Burton recommended the mediums for 11s from the start I would not have to bother with the hassle of going back to the shop, its an afternoon wasted.

Not a big deal but heads up if you are a size 11 and looking at large burton bindings.

Anyone know of another solution?
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I wouldn't get mediums if I were you. Maxed out straps will suck in powder, if you can even fit. I have mediums and a 10 boot, so taking pics of my setup wouldn't help
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How about a pic from the top showing both edges?
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I know how to center my bindings dude,

there are only 3 holes and as I said even on the furthest hole back I have a 2cm imbalance.

Here is the toe on the 2011s



and the 2013 restricted cartels



Any suggestions?

If the mediums won't work then I am stuck.

I was thinking Burton may know about this issue as it will be the same for anyone with a size 11 reduced footprint boot. Maybe they have a new disk that allows me to adjust a bit further back like the 2011. I will contact them tomorrow.

If not then I am not sure what to do. It will be the same for all the reflex bindings and my 2011 disks wont fit in the 2013s so that is not a solution.
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I am not saying you don't know how to center your bindings, dude

a photo from the top would show us what your angles are and what exactly the situation is. You know, showing context. Just a zoomed in shot of your toes hanging off the edge, is just that. I'm scrolling up and down the page trying to imagine your whole binding.

what's the ww of the board?

No, Burton doesn't have a disc for that. They've got a special disc for side to side adjustment though, but you can't flip it otherwise you lose the reflex flex.

and the medium discs are the same size as the large, so your fundamental problem wouldn't change.

btw do you extend the gas pedal at all?
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I can't say anything about this years cartels but the 2011 cartels I rode in a medium with a size 10.5 worked perfectly. I would assume the medium would easily accomodate the extra half size. It's worth going to the store with your boots to get the right fit.
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We actually do recommend a size medium for Burton boots with shrinkage tech for Mens US size 11.
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We actually do recommend a size medium for Burton boots with shrinkage tech for Mens US size 11.
Any suggestion for cartel 2013 regional love On k2 t1 db size 10.5 or Dc status size 10?

Am i good with large?
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I'm not sure as i don't have those boots around to check the fit for you. My guess is a medium but if it were me, i'd go into a shop and check the fit to make a sizing decision.
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I'm not sure as i don't have those boots around to check the fit for you. My guess is a medium but if it were me, i'd go into a shop and check the fit to make a sizing decision.
K thanks a lot
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