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The Factory is the only binding getting canting from Union for 2014. I would like to say get the new Forces, but I havent ridden them to say how the changes effect the ride. The new 3D heelcup shaping and new heel section in the frame will change the way it rides.

As of 2013 I gotta say grab some Cartels over another pair of Forces. For me they rode better in every way.
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I saw some of next season's Union bindings recently, and noticed that the toe strap looked like it had a slightly different shape. It looks more symmetrical.
Smaller toe strap design, with grippier material on the inside as well.


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Amazing what happens when a brand fixes their product issues and people representing them show some tact isn't it? The new Union guy here has been civil, I'm being civil in return. AND they DID in fact change every functional issue I had with the Force: heel dampening, toe ratchet, toe strap. Toe strap still isn't tool less, but that's more nit picky. Still doesn't make sense though.

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Loving the muted red and khaki.. So much cooler than the neon colours I'm (perhaps as a rather understated Brit) really not so keen on..

My 2012 White Forces are satisfying mucky. Sadly I've realised that as I usually fly to the Alps, there really is very little point in owning more than two boards and one set of bindings - however much I'd love another militant-looking setup.

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Amazing what happens when a brand fixes their product issues and people representing them show some tact isn't it? The new Union guy here has been civil, I'm being civil in return. AND they DID in fact change every functional issue I had with the Force: heel dampening, toe ratchet, toe strap. Toe strap still isn't tool less, but that's more nit picky. Still doesn't make sense though.
One thing I'm surprised no Force users have pointed out is the change in highback. The old Force had severe calf bite because the top of the highback was so round and stiff. They've added the flat blunted highback design from the Atlas line. IMO that change alone was the best they could make.
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Odd to see the cnc'd heelcup gone on the contact pros. Unsure how I feel about that highback and the new frame design which seems to be on a bunch of bindings - both look quite weak from a visual aspect.

Would love to compare my current contact pros vs the new ones and the flite pros seeing as that seems to have taken tech from the old contact pros.
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Contact Pro base isn't really that different other than the mini disc. If they didn't use a moderately stiffer eva on the base though you are going to get more base flex so they'll probably feel softer side to side. And no CNCing the heelcup is meh. It saved maybe a few grams, more importantly it's 3D molded to sit flush with the highback. It should perform better and be stronger.

I don't think anyone is commenting on the highback cause its just gonna be a slightly stiffer version of the Atlas. Not really new.

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I don't think anyone is commenting on the highback cause its just gonna be a slightly stiffer version of the Atlas. Not really new.
New to the Force. Which saves the Force from becoming an obsolete binding.
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New to the Force. Which saves the Force from becoming an obsolete binding.
The Force is completely redesigned. 100%, everything on it is new, not just the highback.


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The Force is completely redesigned. 100%, everything on it is new, not just the highback.
Yes, I know this. I'm just saying the one thing that was actually a problem on the previous Force was the highback. I just figured of all mentions about the re-design, those who've ridden both the Force and the Atlas haven't mentioned the addition of the Atlas shaped highback, which IMO, was the most crucial.
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