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and you've put them on with the highbacks leaning in towards each other, right?
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LOL yes - that much i did understand (it had the left and right tags on the insides of the straps too)

Its not a massive lean, but if you imagine the boot standing perfectly straight compared to that, it is quite off-centre.

I remember when the shop salesperson was first trying to convince me to get the burton bindings, he put a burton boot in a burton binding and said "look, see how the highback is perfectly matched, and how it sits so snugly in the rear cradle - thats because they are both Burton." It just didnt feel so snug for me. I will try to take some actual pics tonight to show the differences
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is your stance wide enough?
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You do realize the highbacks are supposed to be offcenter on your boots, right? Those highbacks are specifically designed that way for a different feel and support while riding. You may also need to shorten the toe strap for a more secure fit
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Thanks to all those that gave suggestions, on the snow i found that it wasnt as big of a problem as i had thought. The ankle strap is fine, albeit a little time consuming. For the toe strap on the left foot, i do think there is an issue though. If i take my time, and apply enough pressure to the front of the ratchet, i can tighten it enough to have no lift of the toe

But this is the ladder after 4hrs on the snow:


And thats not because i am being hamfisted and overtightening. I am only matching the relative tightness i am getting on the right side

Looks like my problem starts here:


the other side doesnt have that bevel, and i suspect thats why this side slips so quickly (the ankle strap is fine)

Anyway, i am going to the shop to get the ladder/strap replaced. Though that is just the start of my problems. The Ambush boots which felt so snug in the store (i got the display model so the left side was slightly more 'worn in' than the right side) turned into boots from hell on the snow. The right side boot felt way too tight, pretty much instantly causing my foot to cramp up. I loosened the inners all the way, and the bottom portion of the quicklace was completely loose, but i still lost feeling in my little toe on the right side after 5 minutes, and spent the rest of the afternoon in pain (only the right side). Hoping they can use the heatgun to mould it larger, because i could only stand it for 4hrs and my foot is still sore today.

I think i should have gone for a real cant system though. My knees hurt today, which i have not had before. To the poster that asked my stance, its 53.34cm (21") stance width, I am 171cm/5'8", with a 76cm/30" inseam (self measured)

Overall, i am fairly disappointed at having dropped $500+ on my first decent branded setup, only to come out with more pains than my previous cheap setups caused Lets see what the shop can suggest

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Burton has poor quality stuff for their affordable price point. If you got maybe a set of Cartel's you would have been fine. I feel that Burton doesn't put enough of their time in their "affordable" things. The cheaper boards, boots, and bindings are really bad. I would suggest staying away from their lower end stuff and going for their higher end things. Or going with anything Ride, or Rome. They have excellent, solid, and durable stuff.
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I think i should have gone for a real cant system though. My knees hurt today, which i have not had before. To the poster that asked my stance, its 53.34cm (25") stance width, I am 171cm/5'8", with a 76cm/36" inseam (self measured)
Dude, you got to work on your metric/imperial conversions:
  1. 54.34cm is 21" - which incidentally sounds about right. 25" would be massive - you would have a really hard time turning the board with that.
  2. 76cm is not 36", it is just under 30".
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Burton has poor quality stuff for their affordable price point. If you got maybe a set of Cartel's you would have been fine. I feel that Burton doesn't put enough of their time in their "affordable" things. The cheaper boards, boots, and bindings are really bad. I would suggest staying away from their lower end stuff and going for their higher end things. Or going with anything Ride, or Rome. They have excellent, solid, and durable stuff.
I got the impression that the Missions were basically the same as last year's cartels? Either way, the guy at the shop agreed that the toe strap was dodgy. Unfortunately they didnt have spare parts so it is being sent back for warranty and hopefully will have it back for next weekend.

As for the boots, apparently the heat molding is only possible on the top-end boots, and he reminded me that i needed to spend at least 30 minutes wearing the boots in the house/warm temperature. Being that my house is shoes-off, i spent the rest of the day shopping while wearing the boots (yeah i felt like lil wayne). My feet werent sore after that so i hope it will be ok at the snow.

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Dude, you got to work on your metric/imperial conversions:
  1. 54.34cm is 21" - which incidentally sounds about right. 25" would be massive - you would have a really hard time turning the board with that.
  2. 76cm is not 36", it is just under 30".
Whoops! Thanks, i have updated the post
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Burton has poor quality stuff for their affordable price point. If you got maybe a set of Cartel's you would have been fine. I feel that Burton doesn't put enough of their time in their "affordable" things. The cheaper boards, boots, and bindings are really bad. I would suggest staying away from their lower end stuff and going for their higher end things. Or going with anything Ride, or Rome. They have excellent, solid, and durable stuff.
i guess you didn't read what he bought. Mission bindings are not low quality. wayyyyyy better than anything from Ride hahahahahahahaha


to the OP, wear just the inners around your house. I'm in the process of breaking in a pair. At first, just start with short time periods. Don't let it get too painful otherwise you'll develop a bruise that won't heal til the season's over. Sounds like your bindings should be warrantied (which you're doing) and maybe your boots too.
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Thanks, that makes sense. Will start wearing the inners only around the house

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Don't let it get too painful otherwise you'll develop a bruise that won't heal til the season's over
Ouch. I spent 4hrs snowboarding in a fair amount of pain (enough for my little toe to go numb). I can somewhat feel the pain now. Hopefully I havent bruised/damaged anything there
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