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post #31 of 63 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 09:47 PM
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BurtonBindings/Glaucon, i have noticed some gnarly wear on my Burton Ambush boots as well, from my Mission Restricted bindings (after about 8 days use). Checking the Burton site I see the driver X has similar design at the back - that backstay doesnt go all the way to the sole. The binding appears to be attacking the top of the heel strip bit where the backstay ends - i hope that isnt a structural part of the boot because the stitching on mine is about to be worn through...
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oddly enough, my Rome Libertines (2013) have matching ridges on the back of the boot and they fit together perfectly with the Cartels. I havent noticed any wear or tear on my boots since switching to Cartels.


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Hi guys. Sorry to dig up such an old thread, but is there any solution for this problem? Does sanding down the ridges work? Got this season 2017 Cartels and chewed my boot after just the first day riding.
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Hi guys. Sorry to dig up such an old thread, but is there any solution for this problem? Does sanding down the ridges work? Got this season 2017 Cartels and chewed my boot after just the first day riding.
Yeah sanding or even better.... duct tape.
You could also use shoe goo on the bindings to keep it smooth but grippy.

Or use boots with a plastic backstay. All my boots have had that, so it's neer happened with any bindings
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Too late to change my boots now.
Won't the duct tape come off very often? I was thinking of some teflon tape or that tape tennis players use for their rackets.
But I think sanding should work better. I am curious if someone here actually did this.
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Yeah sanding or even better.... duct tape.
You could also use shoe goo on the bindings to keep it smooth but grippy.

Or use boots with a plastic backstay. All my boots have had that, so it's neer happened with any bindings
Actually a better product that will add grip while protecting his boot would be freesole suggested by Wrathful in his boot thread. He can even put some on the effected area of his boot as well as the spot on the binding.

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Actually a better product that will add grip while protecting his boot would be freesole suggested by Wrathful in his boot thread. He can even put some on the effected area of his boot as well as the spot on the binding.
Yep freesole works.

And duct tape wont come off so easily. You have to put it on in the dry though. Must be bone dry and it's going to last a while. It's going to look cheaper and less of a real solution than freesole or Shoegoo... so defintely, freesole or shoeegoo would be the best.
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what I did was get a one sided razor blade and bent it in half so it curves and use it to cut the protruding backstays out, then I got 300grit sandpaper and sanded it down. seemed to work, had a half day on my cartels.. didn't seem to damage the boots, but idk the long term effects.

I'd get some highback foam and marine epoxy? would that work? I assume it would... and just straight glue over the backstays.

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wait so is this the bindings fault or the boots? When you are buying an expensive high quality binding, you shouldn't have to do dyi and stuff.
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wait so is this the bindings fault or the boots? When you are buying an expensive high quality binding, you shouldn't have to do dyi and stuff.
I say it's the boots.
Good quality badass boots would not get chewed up by some little ridges in a plastic binding. Cartels are not even an expensive binding... My old TM2 would wear out the bindings. I had Missions (which probably had the same ridges) and no wear at all. The same TM2 wore out a bit of the foam and shiny look in Now Drives, etc. but this is mostly cosmetic so who cares.

It can also be that the boots are just rubbing funny. Some kind of weird fit where the boot moves inside the binding... which you shouldn't have anyways. But rather than worrying who or why it's going on.... a simple DIY solves it and you can move on with no real issues. If your boots move in the bindings, I'd definitely look into that first and try to solve it.

To give an example, I have Smith goggles which have this little clip in the back. I hated it as it could unclip and I'd lose the goggles, and unclipping it was annoying under the plastic helmet holder thing..... plus I dont fidget with my goggles anyways...... so I put duct tape on it to shut that clip. That was like 3 yrs ago and that same piece of duct tape is still there after rain, snow, sun and slams....

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