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briko 01-27-2013 02:57 PM

Step up from 2012 Cartels?
 
Hi,

I'm riding 2012 Cartels so far. Looking for bindings for my new board now. The Cartels are o.k., but I think it's boring to buy a second pair.

Is there a do-anything-binding which would be a step up from the cartels?

Hope somenone can help. Thanks

AssassinMonLV 01-27-2013 04:57 PM

Yes. The Malvitas would be pretty good; however they are a bit softer.

Extremo 01-27-2013 05:48 PM

What are you looking for?

Another brand, or something specific to a certain style of riding?

extra0 01-27-2013 07:46 PM

if you're anything like me, you're gonna be spoiled by how lightweight cartels are. Maybe the union SL?

Extremo 01-27-2013 08:25 PM

The Union SL are my favorite binding of all time. Better scoop them up though. I didn't see them in next years catalog.

AssassinMonLV 01-28-2013 10:01 AM

If you're looking for another brand. I strongly recommend the Ride Capo over the Malviats. Ride has some of the best bindings, and most durable.

briko 01-28-2013 03:54 PM

Thanks, guys.

Just looking for something equal or better as the Cartel, since I want to try something different (better shock absorption and better response without being too stiff wouldn't be bad though, errr if the ratchets don't suck and aren't sticky)

Malavita and Capo were on my list as well. To sum up here's what I'd been thinking about:

Union Atlas (downside: toe strap problems? ankle strap screw issue? -> knock out; would go for it otherwise)

Union SL (same problems? too pricey so far)

Malavita (too soft? less response?)

Ride Capo (too stiff????)

Ride Maestro (too soft? thin ankle strap?)

Nitro/Raiden Phantom?

Rossi Experience (too stiff?)

Any more thoughts about that/ other suggestions? Binding should have the same do-anyting ability as the Cartel.

AssassinMonLV 01-28-2013 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=briko;645417]Thanks, guys.

Just looking for something equal or better as the Cartel, since I want to try something different (better shock absorption and better response without being too stiff wouldn't be bad though, errr if the ratchets don't suck and aren't sticky)

Malavita and Capo were on my list as well. To sum up here's what I'd been thinking about:

Union Atlas (downside: toe strap problems? ankle strap screw issue? -> knock out; would go for it otherwise)

Union SL (same problems? too pricey so far)

Malavita (too soft? less response?)

Ride Capo (too stiff????)

Ride Maestro (too soft? thin ankle strap?)

Nitro/Raiden Phantom?

Rossi Experience (too stiff?)

Any more thoughts about that/ other suggestions? Binding should have the same do-anyting ability as the Cartel.[/QUOTE
The Capo's aren't too stiff. The Rossi's are weird for me, I tend to stay away from them. The Capo, the Raiden Blackhawk (The phantom's are softer) And the Ride Maestro is basically the Ride Rodeo so go with the Rodeo instead of Maestro. If you like medium-stiff bindings that are amazing all around take the Capo's or the Blackhawks. If you're like me and like soft-medium flex for the park and groomer runs take the Rodeo. Union has some really nice bindings but their toes strap are really iffy for me. I don't like their feel. That doesn't mean you won't like them. My friends rave about their Unions but I just don't feel them. I prefer my Rodeo, 390's and Cartels.

Extremo 01-28-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by briko (Post 645417)

Union Atlas (downside: toe strap problems? ankle strap screw issue? -> knock out; would go for it otherwise)

Union SL (same problems? too pricey so far)

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Where are you getting this toe strap problems bullshit from?

No screws come loose unless you forget to tighten it. No toe strap problems if you know how to set up a binding. Seriously, people are becoming retarded over this stuff.

AssassinMonLV 01-28-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extremo (Post 646281)
Where are you getting this toe strap problems bullshit from?

No screws come loose unless you forget to tighten it. No toe strap problems if you know how to set up a binding. Seriously, people are becoming retarded over this stuff.

Agreed. But people have to learn from somewhere. I helped show a pair of kids who came to my shop how to properly set up their bindings. I hope they remember next time they want to set up their bindings.


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