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post #11 of 38 (permalink) Old 02-09-2013, 09:08 PM
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C3 has a baseplate warrant if im not mistaken.

I have my 2011 forces mounted on my 2013 parkitec using Burton Conversion Discs, and hardware.
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Awwwwwww just like every other person that's rides a Burton you get all butthurt, because burton makes the best boards ever yea right.
Its not the board that is causing the problem. Its the conversion disc made by union that is the problem.

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C3 has a baseplate warrant if im not mistaken.

I have my 2011 forces mounted on my 2013 parkitec using Burton Conversion Discs, and hardware.
What conversion discs did you get and were did you get them?

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Awwwwwww just like every other person that's rides a Burton you get all butthurt, because burton makes the best boards ever yea right.
lol. I think they make as good a snowboard as almost any other company. I think they have a pretty great warranty program. I have a ton of snowboards, from many other companies. I ride quite a bit, and have ridden a LOT of boards. I have boards from 4 awesome companies in my quiver right now. I'd consider Burton to be one of them.

OP: Channel boards with EST bindings do feel pretty great. EST definitely feels a bit more responsive, and I prefer the way the board flexes under my foot. Hard to explain, but I would say get yourself a set of Cartels, or Malavitas.

If you don't go that route, Call C3, see if they have the updated discs. I almost wonder if those are the old discs, not meant for the M6 hardware. The M6 inserts that you have should extend upwards into the disc and lock into the holes provided. That should be what is preventing the slippage. If the M6 inserts do not fit fairly snugly in each individual hole, I would just call C3, and get these.

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. Seems to me that would mean that the bolts and washers aren't the right profile for the concave sections in the slot.
Not all washers are the same. If you've ever seen the k2 flat washer you know why different they can be not to mention impossible to find. If you currently have any type of foam or dampening material between the board and binding it might be compressing as you ride , jump, or land. If it compresses the whole disc will be a able to move. There is a reason why Burton's screw mounts are as far away from eachother as possible.

The two point mounting system doesn't help because it is designed to flex. As the board flexes , it will push the screw up allowing movement , that is why your screws are still tight when you get to the bottom. You can 1)try to add friction under the disc with padding as some have mentioned, 2) add padding to the outside of the disk to absorb the board flexing 3) try different washer 4) get new bindings.
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lol. I think they make as good a snowboard as almost any other company. I think they have a pretty great warranty program. I have a ton of snowboards, from many other companies. I ride quite a bit, and have ridden a LOT of boards. I have boards from 4 awesome companies in my quiver right now. I'd consider Burton to be one of them.

OP: Channel boards with EST bindings do feel pretty great. EST definitely feels a bit more responsive, and I prefer the way the board flexes under my foot. Hard to explain, but I would say get yourself a set of Cartels, or Malavitas.

If you don't go that route, Call C3, see if they have the updated discs. I almost wonder if those are the old discs, not meant for the M6 hardware. The M6 inserts that you have should extend upwards into the disc and lock into the holes provided. That should be what is preventing the slippage. If the M6 inserts do not fit fairly snugly in each individual hole, I would just call C3, and get these.

That is what I have.

is any oner elsew having this problem? How do you gys mount you unions to a channel board? Also what is C3? and what would padding do to help? Could I just get a power drill and drill them tight tight?

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That is what I have.

is any oner elsew having this problem? How do you gys mount you unions to a channel board? Also what is C3? and what would padding do to help? Could I just get a power drill and drill them tight tight?
I dont recommend power tools, are you using a philips #3 screwdriver?

It looks like you have two things going one, if you say it starts and 15 and ends at 6, the biding is rotating between the disk and the board.

Looking at the picture the disk is moving, it starts with one screw mounted on the 2nd whole and one screw mounted to the 3rd hole, but end up both on the 2nd hole.

The slots on the disc should probably stat perpendicular to the channel with both screws using the same corresponding hole. both using the 2nd hole. That disc can only rotate so far.

The padding would add friction height and prevent the binding from rotating. But if the padding is too thick, your screws will be too short, and you won't be able to tighten them.
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C3 is the parent company of union/capita/coal.....

Your disks look worn out....
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That is what I have.

is any oner elsew having this problem? How do you gys mount you unions to a channel board? Also what is C3? and what would padding do to help? Could I just get a power drill and drill them tight tight?
This is just what happens when you only have 2 screws holding a binding on. The only thing you could possibly do is place something abrasive between the binding and the board to limit it's ability to slide.
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