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Joe Coffee 02-09-2013 03:47 PM

Damn it alive!!!!!
 
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Ok so here is the problem. (NO THIS IS NOT ANOTHER UNION TOE STRAP THREAD)


I have a pair of Union forces (2013) and I ride a burton channel board. (2013 burton superhero). I bought the conversion disc for union bindings so they can be mounted on a burton channel board. I installed them and got the necessary hardware to mount them. (M6 hardware 13mm screws). HOWEVER when they are mounted and I ride with them they ROTATE. For instance they will be at 15 degrees at the top of the hill and then they will be at like 6 degrees at the bottom of the hill. My screws are tight and I mean TIGHT. They have been tightened with a screw driver not a power tool. The weird thing is the screws are still crazy tight when the binding rotates. The bindings do not slide up and down the channel though. They stay in place its just this f$$$$$ disc keeps rotating. This is really pissing me off because i have to go back to the chalet and take the bindings off and re align them losing a lot of time. So basically what can I do to fix this problem? I am at the point now were I want to just cement the damn disc to the board.



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As you can see the bindings are shifting. They should be in line with the reference point on the board.

binarypie 02-09-2013 04:29 PM

Call them up and tell them their disks are defective.

Alternatively if you don't care about adjusting your angles then just glue the plate to the binding.

Joe Coffee 02-09-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by binarypie (Post 703233)
Call them up and tell them their disks are defective.

Alternatively if you don't care about adjusting your angles then just glue the plate to the binding.

The plate is not rotating within the binding. Its rotating over the screws if you know what I mean.

binarypie 02-09-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Coffee (Post 703273)
The plate is not rotating within the binding. Its rotating over the screws if you know what I mean.

OHHH now I understand.

Maybe try different hardware if you can find a set of burton EST screws and washers?

Or if you really desperate just go get a really thin foam type material people put on the bottom of their kitchen drawers and sandwich it between your binding and the board.

Perhaps you just need more friction?

gmore10 02-09-2013 05:24 PM

Shouldn't of bought a shitty channel board :yahoo:

Donutz 02-09-2013 05:30 PM

The bolts are jumping from one location in the binding plate to another? That's what it looks like from the pix. Seems to me that would mean that the bolts and washers aren't the right profile for the concave sections in the slots, OR you're not making sure the bolts are sitting right in those concave sections when tightening, OR the bolts don't seat properly in there for some other reason -- like they're too long and bottom out before they form a snug fit. Or maybe there's supposed to be a pad underneath the plate that would increase the height slightly.

These are all just random guesses. But the alternative is that you're so hard on your equipment that you're able to deform the plates enough to have the bindings jump to another position. And you'd think the manufacturer would have heard about that kind of problem if it happened a lot.

J.Schaef 02-09-2013 05:52 PM

OP: Call C3, the baseplates probably need replacing. Maybe if you are lucky, they will send you some. If you have to buy them, at least they are cheap. I seem to remember some of the baseplates from other binding companies being a bit problematic with burtons channel system.

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Originally Posted by gmore10 (Post 703377)
Shouldn't of bought a shitty channel board :yahoo:

Productive post. I have quite a few Channel boards, and I love all of them. I think the channel and EST bindings is pretty fantastic.

Joe Coffee 02-09-2013 05:55 PM

Thanks for the suggestions guys but I have tightened the hell out of the screws, Made sure the washers are seated correctly etc etc. I am just thinking now selling the bindings and buying some burton bindings to go with it.

Donutz 02-09-2013 06:38 PM

Well, there's always that option too. :laugh:

There's a point at which you have to stop finessing it and just hit it with a hammer.

gmore10 02-09-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by J.Schaef (Post 703473)
OP: Call C3, the baseplates probably need replacing. Maybe if you are lucky, they will send you some. If you have to buy them, at least they are cheap. I seem to remember some of the baseplates from other binding companies being a bit problematic with burtons channel system.



Productive post. I have quite a few Channel boards, and I love all of them. I think the channel and EST bindings is pretty fantastic.

Awwwwwww just like every other person that's rides a Burton you get all butthurt, because burton makes the best boards ever yea right.


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