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Old 03-02-2013, 12:30 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Didn't feel the need to start a new thread since it's a union question.

But can someone please list the union bindings in categories or order of stiffness. You know like what is in the all mtn, park, mid stiff, stiff, soft, etc.
The website doesn't help and I've been trying to figure them out while sifting through threads, but some of them seem so similar. It would be greatly appreciated.
Union generally does not like to give flex/stiffness ratings for their bindings. Among other things, they point out (correctly IMO) that it is not just overall flex, but also where the binding flexes - e.g., the Contact Pros have a pretty soft highback but a very responsive baseplate (similar to the Rome 390s).
In addition, flex on Union bindings changes from year to year - e.g., the 11/12 SL had carbon in the baseplate, while the 12/13 does not.

In very general terms here is a spectrum of Union binding stiffness from my experience (i.e., not including the DLXs, etc.) from Soft to Stiff:
Contacts < Atlas/SL 12/13/Contact Pro < MC < Atlas Team/SL 11/12 < Force (up until 12/13) < Charger

Union Inhouse might be along shortly to add/correct the above.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:38 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Union generally does not like to give flex/stiffness ratings for their bindings. Among other things, they point out (correctly IMO) that it is not just overall flex, but also where the binding flexes - e.g., the Contact Pros have a pretty soft highback but a very responsive baseplate (similar to the Rome 390s).
In addition, flex on Union bindings changes from year to year - e.g., the 11/12 SL had carbon in the baseplate, while the 12/13 does not.

In very general terms here is a spectrum of Union binding stiffness from my experience (i.e., not including the DLXs, etc.) from Soft to Stiff:
Contacts < Atlas/SL 12/13/Contact Pro < MC < Atlas Team/SL 11/12 < Force (up until 12/13) < Charger

Union Inhouse might be along shortly to add/correct the above.
Ok. So I think my idea of stiffness/flex, response, etc. vs riding style/preference is not as generalized as I had assumed. The more I read and learn, a lot of this is a matter of rider preference. It sounds like the best thing to do is try to demo as much gear as possible. Sorry for the noob inquiry guys, still trying to wrap my head around all this tech, which is constantly changing!!!
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Ok. So I think my idea of stiffness/flex, response, etc. vs riding style/preference is not as generalized as I had assumed. The more I read and learn, a lot of this is a matter of rider preference. It sounds like the best thing to do is try to demo as much gear as possible. Sorry for the noob inquiry guys, still trying to wrap my head around all this tech, which is constantly changing!!!
Dude trust me, my head was spinning with all this new shit going into bindings. The last time I bought bindings half of these companies didn't even exist. I did TONS of research before I ended up making a decision on the SL's and from my understanding the Metafuse is their stiffest top of the line binding, then comes the SL's then comes the force.

Those are the only ones that I know because none of the other products in their line can up a lot in discussion in my search to get a grip with all that goes into bindings now.

Like I said I ride the SL's and can tell you I can shred the shit out of any trail as fast as my board can take me and feel like I'm in complete control, yet the other day I spent 80% of my time in the park and the torsional flex and the shock absorption allowed me to kill it there as well.
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Dude trust me, my head was spinning with all this new shit going into bindings. The last time I bought bindings half of these companies didn't even exist. I did TONS of research before I ended up making a decision on the SL's and from my understanding the Metafuse is their stiffest top of the line binding, then comes the SL's then comes the force.

Those are the only ones that I know because none of the other products in their line can up a lot in discussion in my search to get a grip with all that goes into bindings now.

Like I said I ride the SL's and can tell you I can shred the shit out of any trail as fast as my board can take me and feel like I'm in complete control, yet the other day I spent 80% of my time in the park and the torsional flex and the shock absorption allowed me to kill it there as well.
Sounds like your enjoying your new set-up!

Yeah, I just pulled the trigger on malavitas that were on sale for $156. I was on the fence with these, hence the inquiries about union. But for that price, I said what the hell!
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Sounds like your enjoying your new set-up!

Yeah, I just pulled the trigger on malavitas that were on sale for $156. I was on the fence with these, hence the inquiries about union. But for that price, I said what the hell!
Yeah bro thats a steal! Let me know how those babies ride!
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Yeah bro thats a steal! Let me know how those babies ride!
For sure!
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Dude trust me, my head was spinning with all this new shit going into bindings. The last time I bought bindings half of these companies didn't even exist. I did TONS of research before I ended up making a decision on the SL's and from my understanding the Metafuse is their stiffest top of the line binding, then comes the SL's then comes the force.
Nope. 10 chars
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What does that mean??
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Sounds like your enjoying your new set-up!

Yeah, I just pulled the trigger on malavitas that were on sale for $156. I was on the fence with these, hence the inquiries about union. But for that price, I said what the hell!
shoot, they still have any more at that price where you got it from?!
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What does that mean??
It means what you wrote is wrong.
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