Soul06

I would guess around September or so

w0318

is it norm for a company to redesign a binding after 1 year? i was reading and seem to see the baseplate as listing the same.

seriouscat

Helical ladders? I'm guessing people complained about strap slipping? Or are people cranking on them too hard?

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Lamps

Because of tariffs and taxes more taxes and and little niceties like public medical care and gun control everything in Europe is way more expensive than North America. So I wouldn't expect that the price point would translate. My guess would be that next year's Genesis will cost about what this year's do, plus or minus a little bit. I could be wrong and maybe they'll go up market with them pricewise but I would be surprised.

In Canada diodes run 399 to 449 C$ and lots of shops don't bother to stock them, most will go as high as the genesis, but I suspect a big price increase in the genesis would make them less common on shelves, like diodes.

Someoldguy

I never had straps slipping on my old cartels, the helix thing I don't care much about. What I heard from a shop guy that rode on the 2014's is the webbing material on the ankle straps is ridiculously comfortable, and they are very lightweight.

Lamps / Soul06: Thanks for the thoughts on availability and price.

Leo

The straps interest me most. I have a consistent problem with Burton bindings particularly in the toe straps. And I do have Burton boots too. Whenever I press for an extended amount of time, the toe strap that I'm leaning into loosens up. So say I do a tail press on my way into the park. When I stop to wait my turn, I almost always have to retighten my rear toe strap.

I have tried every which configuration to try and solve this problem to no avail. My best solution thus far moving that ladder to the closest slot in the toe side. Slips a little less than when in the forward slot.

I have a feeling this new system won't have this problem. Gonna try and buy just the ankle straps and ladders and frankenstein them onto my current bindings.

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w0318

how easy do you think it would be to purchase these? does burton usually just sell those?

Some Guy

The bindings would most likely be about $350 in the us. I look for us websites cause it's cheaper. Same number, less value to the currency

Supra

hey guys, I rode the 2014's. I also owned the 2013's for about a month.

Leo, the new straps are only for the ankles. I don't remember exactly but I was under the impression that they still have regular genesis toe straps.
Are you making sure your heels are all the way back when you do them up? maybe hammer your toes a couple of times with your hand to get them all the way in.
EDIT: the toe straps are new too


As for the 2014's, yes, the new ankle strap is comfy...but so is the one on the 2013's.

AFAIK the new straps are not in response to a problem with slipping ladders, it's just Burton pushing binding design.

jdang307

well... how did they ride?