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post #31 of 49 (permalink) Old 03-02-2013, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
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My Old 2010/11 Large Cartel's

Here's how my Old Cartels center up. Same board, same boots!
(...again, I apologize for the orientation! I've tried & failed to fix it!)

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Here's the Toe;

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...and the Heel!

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Definitely "Less" adjustability in the New 12/13 Cartels!!! I'll return them to REI & see if a Mediium size will center better!
Although, as I mentioned earlier,.. I don't think I'll like the way it rides with Med. bindings! I think they will be too small for the wide board!
Shit!! I really wanted those bindings on my Arbor! They're more comfortable than my Old Cartels, and I liked the way the new straps Held my boot in the bindings! No more slipping or riding up the edge of the binding whenever I Butter!!

(...anybody want to buy a slightly used Arbor Roundhouse 163W?)

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Binding size, assuming same bunding and they fit your boots and can center on the board, won't affect ride. What mattersmis where your toe and heel end up relative to the edges of the board. Lean energy is transferred to the board regardless of the binding size.

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If you push the highback more forward with the adjustment screws, that might work for you, provided the forward lean adjuster still hits the heelcup.
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even with your old cartels to me it looks like your heel still sticks further. I have the dame issue with my large burtons too. There almost centered but my heel sticks out like 1/4 more but I cant tell when riding.
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even with your old cartels to me it looks like your heel still sticks further. I have the dame issue with my large burtons too. There almost centered but my heel sticks out like 1/4 more but I cant tell when riding.
Yeah, it does. I have maybe 1/4 - 1/2 inch more heel over than toe! This hasn't been too big an issue! Although, until I got good at riding the thing,.. Probably explains why when I was learning, my "Go Too" side was always my Heelside!! Going toe side seemed a little sketchy early in my riding! (I've since adapted!)

I ordered the Med. Cartels from REI. (...in store's sold out!) Unfortunately, they will not get here before I leave for Boyne Highlands next week. I even if they do fix the centering issue, I still want to spend some time riding them to make sure a Med. binding like that is going to work on my wide board! I'm still worried that there won't be enough leverage for my turns to feel dialed in! I can ride that board pretty well with my Old Cartels! We're running out of ride time here in MI for me to make sure they'll work!!

(BTW,.. I tried putting them on my NS Proto, and they wouldn't center the boot on that reg width board either!)

I have a PM in to Burton Bindings to aks about those large straps for the Med. bindings. Haven't heard back yet! Thanks for the replies guys!

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dude, everyone favours their heelside when learning. It's a natural reaction, it's not because of binding overhang.

If you want large straps for your bindings, call rider services instead of trying to go directly to the B bindings product manager. It will be faster.
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I ordered the Med. Cartels from REI. (...in store's sold out!) Unfortunately, they will not get here before I leave for Boyne Highlands next week.
Not sure if it helps, but I had issues with size large Cartel reflex bindings on an Arbor Wasteland last season and some overhang I couldn't get rid of after adjusting them. Returned the bindings for size medium and it was a lot better. Size 10 burton Ambush boots here.

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dude, everyone favours their heelside when learning. It's a natural reaction, it's not because of binding overhang.
That isn't necessarily true. I've favored my toe-side since day one when riding regular. It baffled my instructor to no end. On the other hand, I highly favor my heelside when riding switch, so there you go.

To Chomps' issue I've seen similar problems with some of the mini-disc bindings like the older Nitros.

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It baffled your instructors because you are an exception to the norm
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This is simple. Your board is too wide and your bindings are too big.

A 26.8 waist needs at the very least a 12. You're a size and a half too small for that board in reality. And you have almost no toe overhang in that binding. Mediums are a better fit.

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