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post #41 of 49 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 08:27 AM
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Definitely medium size bindings.

Also, a regular width board - but sounds like that ship has sailed...

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This is simple. Your board is too wide and your bindings are too big.

A 26.8 waist needs at the very least a 12. You're a size and a half too small for that board in reality. And you have almost no toe overhang in that binding. Mediums are a better fit.
Thank you. That is is the basic problem and no messing around with the bindings is going to address this fundamental issue.
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dude, everyone favours their heelside when learning. It's a natural reaction, it's not because of binding overhang.
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That isn't necessarily true. I've favored my toe-side since day one when riding regular. It baffled my instructor to no end. On the other hand, I highly favor my heelside when riding switch, so there you go.
Treegreen thanks, I didn't want to publicly disagree with Supra again as I wasn't trying to disrespect or get into a pissing contest with anybody here,.. but I'm glad you posted that. I've run across several people who didn't seem to be able to "get it" going heel side. They just couldn't seem to stay off their ass, but when I mentioned to them to try things like side slipping, garlands, etc. toe side?? THAT they seemed to manage!

While "Heel Side" might be the more common comfort zone for most people when starting out,.. I firmly believe that we ALL have a "Go To" side & for some,.. that's Toe side!

...as for the bindings, the Med. Cartels should arrive today! It's going to get shitty warm around here for the weekend so I'm not sure if I'll get a chance to try them on the Arbor this week! Have to wait & see how they work out on a wide board! (BTW, put my old L Cartels back on the Arbor & managed to hit a personal best speed record last weekend!)

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did you try out the mediums yet?
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To the posters who blamed this situation on REI a while back...I don't think that's entirely fair. I have no interest (other than my membership with them), but to say the lesson learned is to never the trust the guy at the board shop, when your "board shop" is REI...I think that's obviously a lesson poorly learned. REI is fine if you done your research beforehand, but they're a mass-market retailer and their sales people have to help in several different areas. You'd be crazy to take them as absolutes in experts in snowboarding, when tomorrow the dude might be selling kayaks. A good snowboard shop will have people that live, eat, breath and (sometimes) sleep snowboarding. I've bought great gloves there, got a fantastic Red helmet with speakers, some fine stuff...but I wouldn't trust their floor sales people for a decision as important as boots, bindings and boards. Just my humble opinion.
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A 26.8 waist needs at the very least a 12.
My board is 26.8 wide and my boot are 12's and I was 99% sure I would go with Cartel's until I found this discussion and saw how small the discs were.

Given that my boot size is ok for my board .. is it possible that I will run into issues with centering these on my board?
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The primary issues in this thread are the wrong size bindings for the boots, compounded by a wide board when it was unnecessary.
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My board is 26.8 wide and my boot are 12's and I was 99% sure I would go with Cartel's until I found this discussion and saw how small the discs were.

Given that my boot size is ok for my board .. is it possible that I will run into issues with centering these on my board?
Yes it's possible. Burton bindings without adjustable heel cups limit the amount of side-side adjustment. Is a trade off. Stronger, lighter one piece base, or more weight and more parts that are adjustable. If you get the right size, they will work. I'm guessing you need a large, but it still could be medium. Depends on board and boots, no way to know until you try it. I have burton prohecys, medium, size 10 boots. Had to bone them to heel size on ne board, had them centered on another board, both same waist size...

Don't let it stop you from getting cartels if that's what you want to run, just be aware you may have to exchange them if they are the wrong size.
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Chomps, go right ahead & disagree with me. It's the internets! If we all agreed on stuff it wouldn't be much fun. For me, as long as my heels & toes don't hit the snow on a carve, it doesn't matter if I'm in the middle hole or the back hole, but different strokes blah blah.

Hope the mediums work out for you!
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anybody need to unload some mediums?

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