cartels, ride capo's or 390 boss for my t rice - Page 3 - Snowboarding Forum

IS3_FTW · 03-03-2013, 11:23 AM

We told you what binding fits your needs. Now the next thing is, to figure out if the toe strap of the binding you want fits your boots. This is where a shop that has the bindings you want, would come in handy. You can try them and if you dont like them, dont buy them.

Good Luck

snowman55 · 03-03-2013, 12:08 PM

I tried the 390s and Cartels and went with Cartels due to all the durability issues posted about the Rome bindings. Flex wise, they felt very similar to me.

The Cartels seemed little lighter as well.

wedore · 03-03-2013, 07:56 PM

thanks guys for all the info/help. im heading into my local snowboard shop today and check them out. i feel kinda bad using them to suss my gear and then buying online...but when u sell 32 lashed boots for 400 AUD and boards for $800 AUD when they are 400 online from the US what do you expect?

beall · 03-03-2013, 08:16 PM

I know what you mean. That's why I am hunting for bargains in the State now since it is almost the end of the season for them and the start of the season for us in a couple of months. Are you using a forwarding company to see your snow gear over? Not sure how much the board cost though for shipping over to Oz from the States, but I have a few items that are not big and they can fit in a medium box so it will be cheaper to consolidate them.

IS3_FTW · 03-03-2013, 08:57 PM

Gotta do what you gotta do, to save a buck or 2

I do it all the time. There is this store by me(www.evo.com), and they have an online site as well. The funny thing is, the sales that are on their online site, are not on sale at the store

Just dont tell the people that your going to buy online, before you waste their time. They might be bias and try to convince you to buy a sales pitch, instead of what you want. Keep your game face on and get what you want, not what they want you to buy.

wedore · 03-04-2013, 12:27 AM

hmm yeh i dont use a forwarding company cos then it just gets too hard. i got the t rice shipped for like 60 bucks. bargain. some brands arent allowed to be shipped to aus but between evo.com dogfunk.com and ebay i can generally find what i want

if i feel too guilty ill buy stomp pad from them for 20 bucks lol

jdang307 · 03-04-2013, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedore

according to "the good ride" mob boss is more stiff and responsive than the 390 boss but according to reviews and everyone on here its more of a park binding?

Yeah ... and the Good Ride just lost all of it's credibility.

I've only been riding canted bindings the past 3 seasons. K2 Auto Uprise, Raiden Blackhawks, 390 Boss and Burton Vitas with autocant.

I did not notice the canting missing when riding the autocant. The Vita is a very nice binding, and I have to assume the Cartel is just as nice.

But I'm thinking the Raiden Blackhawk might be something you could look at. Canted, great ratchets etc. etc.

wedore · 03-04-2013, 06:24 AM

ahhh i really wanted to go with the burton cartels and end all this pain haha...but i suspected the autocant would be questionable when compared to real canting in the rides...and youre the second person to try it and agree. so i think ill go for real canting.

so ride capos are too stiff for me, cartels autocant is dodgy, rome boss is too flexy...so im back at square one

1. maestros could be a good alternative to the capos - a little less stiff but $239 - would these be similar flex to cartels?

2. Targas can dial in ur own flex so i could check them out

3. nitro blackhawks (as suggested above) seems like a contender, cant find many reviews on this tho

thoughts on these 3?

jdang307 · 03-04-2013, 02:32 PM

I think you misunderstood. I said I didn't notice the Burton didn't have it.

I.e. no difference between the canted bindings and the Burton autocant.

Of course I could be one of those guys who has a larger tolerance for different cant angles.

The Raiden Blackhawk is a fine binding. I would have kept it except my boot was a bit small in it (7.5) and couldn't center it right. Even with it not being centered (heel heavy) I had a blast on them. Responsive enough to go as fast as I needed (Coda). I'm no speedster but hit 35mph+ here and there before I pussy out.

But playful enough to do straight airs and such.

The T Rice might be stiffer than the Coda though so others should chime in on Blackhawk compatibility.

There is the Raiden Machine that combines air dampening and canting. That's the best of all worlds. I'd jump on that myself if it weren't rated so stiff (put them on a Cobra ...)

If Raiden is listening. Do that shit for the Phantom or blackhawk please!

DrEwTiMe · 03-04-2013, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedore

checkin out the maestro..they might be a good choice ahead of the capo if i want something a little more forgiving but still stiffer. I wish all the brands used the same flex rating system. id really like to know how maestros compare to cartels compared to rome targa. I think id shy away from the cartels just cos of the auto cant system vs real canting. however how to know which binding from rome/ride match in flex

Yeah like I said before these bindings are pretty sick. Their new high back( Slimeback EC) has ridiculous torsional flex yet you have that stiff response you want when on that more aggressive terrain outside the park. They are extremely comfortable and an handle anything you throw at them. In comparison of my union SL's they feel slightly more rigid. Not stiff but rigid, it might be that I got new boots since I rode the maestro's but turn initiation just feel more comfortable to me on the sl's. Maybe it's the aluminum base or maybe I'm just crazy haha. But there you have it

03-03-2013, 08:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
IS3_FTW Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Tac/Oly WA Posts: 52	Gotta do what you gotta do, to save a buck or 2 I do it all the time. There is this store by me(www.evo.com), and they have an online site as well. The funny thing is, the sales that are on their online site, are not on sale at the store Just dont tell the people that your going to buy online, before you waste their time. They might be bias and try to convince you to buy a sales pitch, instead of what you want. Keep your game face on and get what you want, not what they want you to buy. Last edited by IS3_FTW; 03-03-2013 at 08:59 PM.

03-04-2013, 02:32 PM	#29 (permalink)
jdang307 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,075	I think you misunderstood. I said I didn't notice the Burton didn't have it. I.e. no difference between the canted bindings and the Burton autocant. Of course I could be one of those guys who has a larger tolerance for different cant angles. The Raiden Blackhawk is a fine binding. I would have kept it except my boot was a bit small in it (7.5) and couldn't center it right. Even with it not being centered (heel heavy) I had a blast on them. Responsive enough to go as fast as I needed (Coda). I'm no speedster but hit 35mph+ here and there before I pussy out. But playful enough to do straight airs and such. The T Rice might be stiffer than the Coda though so others should chime in on Blackhawk compatibility. There is the Raiden Machine that combines air dampening and canting. That's the best of all worlds. I'd jump on that myself if it weren't rated so stiff (put them on a Cobra ...) If Raiden is listening. Do that shit for the Phantom or blackhawk please! Last edited by jdang307; 03-04-2013 at 02:36 PM.

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03-03-2013, 11:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
IS3_FTW Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Tac/Oly WA Posts: 52	We told you what binding fits your needs. Now the next thing is, to figure out if the toe strap of the binding you want fits your boots. This is where a shop that has the bindings you want, would come in handy. You can try them and if you dont like them, dont buy them. Good Luck

03-03-2013, 12:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
snowman55 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 74	I tried the 390s and Cartels and went with Cartels due to all the durability issues posted about the Rome bindings. Flex wise, they felt very similar to me. The Cartels seemed little lighter as well.

03-03-2013, 07:56 PM	#23 (permalink)
wedore Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia (QLD) Posts: 45	thanks guys for all the info/help. im heading into my local snowboard shop today and check them out. i feel kinda bad using them to suss my gear and then buying online...but when u sell 32 lashed boots for 400 AUD and boards for $800 AUD when they are 400 online from the US what do you expect?

03-03-2013, 08:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
beall Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 50	I know what you mean. That's why I am hunting for bargains in the State now since it is almost the end of the season for them and the start of the season for us in a couple of months. Are you using a forwarding company to see your snow gear over? Not sure how much the board cost though for shipping over to Oz from the States, but I have a few items that are not big and they can fit in a medium box so it will be cheaper to consolidate them.

03-04-2013, 12:27 AM	#26 (permalink)
wedore Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia (QLD) Posts: 45	hmm yeh i dont use a forwarding company cos then it just gets too hard. i got the t rice shipped for like 60 bucks. bargain. some brands arent allowed to be shipped to aus but between evo.com dogfunk.com and ebay i can generally find what i want if i feel too guilty ill buy stomp pad from them for 20 bucks lol

03-04-2013, 06:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
wedore Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia (QLD) Posts: 45	ahhh i really wanted to go with the burton cartels and end all this pain haha...but i suspected the autocant would be questionable when compared to real canting in the rides...and youre the second person to try it and agree. so i think ill go for real canting. so ride capos are too stiff for me, cartels autocant is dodgy, rome boss is too flexy...so im back at square one 1. maestros could be a good alternative to the capos - a little less stiff but $239 - would these be similar flex to cartels? 2. Targas can dial in ur own flex so i could check them out 3. nitro blackhawks (as suggested above) seems like a contender, cant find many reviews on this tho thoughts on these 3?