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Old 03-26-2013, 08:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all.

I'm again searching for a pair (or two) of bindings. Here's a thread i started 3 years before: Stiff freeride binding..

I was saying in 1st post that Ride CAD 09-10 is hard to find... and i got two pairs of them So everything is possible.

I still have one pair of a CAD's. Say this would be my softcarving binders. I need one for a freeride for new swallowtails.

So what i need:
1. Metal
2. Able to rotate the highback.
3. Stiff and responsive. I also ride hardboots, so if can't be too stiff to me
4. Side support. Malavita highback looks nice to me ))
5. Light?
6. No need in canted footbeds. If they included - that's good, but i want one foot flat.

What I'm looking at:
1. Rome Arsenal. This are stiffer then Targas, right? I ordered a Targas for my friend, and they doensn't look that stiff, i can go stiffer, i think.
2. Flux DMCC. I got a Flux one time, at least they didn't broke under my 220lbs.
3. Union ? Force, Charger? What is the stiffest one and how does it comare to others?
4. Ride ? El hefe or double agent? or get one more CAD or SPI? Do want a canted footbed for rear foot, but this is only NRC and CAD.
5. Nidecker ACT Carbon. They were on ebay, from US BX team, say 8 or 4 pairs for 165 each. I kinda regret I didn't bought one.

I know about Catek FR2 and Phiokka Mix binders, but I need something simpler.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I just stumbled onto this. Says they have last years Nidecker Carbons & they will ship.

Jones, Yes & Nidecker snowboards

No idea how much they want? But you may get a better deal if you buy 2 or even 3 then sell one to your buddy?


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Old 03-26-2013, 09:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks interesting. I'd mail there or call later for sure.
However Nidecker ACT carbon highback doesn't rotate. That's not an issue in a BX races but can be an issue once you're carving 180+deck in a pow with 45 degree front.
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for union, pretty sure the charger is stiffest. No highback rotation, no canting. Check out pdxrealator thread on burton diodes breaking, he gives a little insight on his experience with chargers he used to replace his broken diodes.
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As far as super stiff goes you'd really have to rule out Union.

I'd look at the Raiden Machine.
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I dislike that charger highback non-rotateable.
What is about Rome Arsenal? I've read that after 2011 they become softer, that before. Can anyone confirm that?

What's up with Raiden Machine? Where's highback adjustment???????! Same on Flux DMCC Light BTW.
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any more opinions?
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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any more opinions?
Yeah, if you can ignore point #1, then C60s are the way to go. I've used them on several of my stiff crazy boards (I know you're into them) and they're solid. I do like the Diode more now, but they're not as stiff. Close, but not quite.

Why do you want them to be metal? FG/composites can be stiffer, lighter and stronger than metal, and with Burton's lifetime baseplate warranty you don't need to worry about them breaking!
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I dislike that charger highback non-rotateable.
What is about Rome Arsenal? I've read that after 2011 they become softer, that before. Can anyone confirm that?

What's up with Raiden Machine? Where's highback adjustment???????! Same on Flux DMCC Light BTW.
Are you talking about high back rotation or forward lean? The dmcc lights do both, just takes a little more effort than other bindings as there are no quick adjusters.
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i've got a pair of bent metal step ins, aluminum base, aluminum highback, it doesnt get stiffer. Went out of production 3-4 years ago. you cant beat the response of a metal highback.
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