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Old 08-09-2013, 05:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking for some bindings for the Flagship. Reason for giving men's bindings a try: more response (and colors. decent colors. black. )

Ok... I try to put together the scattered info out of other threads (thanks for all the info!) and studying catalogues/web. Guess, I have my candidates now. Main aspects I'm looking for are comfort, response and good shock absorption (Flagship). Nice to have would be rotatable high-back (got steep forward angles) and canted foot bed, but these both options seem to be rather rare in this category of bindings, thus I assume that they are not necessarily an advantage, otherwise brands would include them . I won't exclude models without these options before I tried them...

- Ride El Hefe (size M) -> the have all the options. But no S size...?
- Burton Diodes (size S) -> all options except of canting... will try them.
- Union Charger or MC (S/M) -> their high-back look really high...? what about comfort?
- Flux DM or SF (size S or M?) -> what about shock absorption?
- Nidecker Carbon (size S/M) -> hmmm... were mentioned to be rather bulky... also the S/M?

The El Hefe and Diodes are on top of my list so far, but they are also very pricy... 520$ resp. 560$ and found none on sale. Yes, quality has it's price, that's ok. But maybe I'll find other models equally good, thus I'm really interested to demo them. I had Burton Escapades and Ride Fames so far, so I'm used to a certain degree of comfort . I know, comfort is something very individual, and I will demo the binding before buying, but my local shop only has Ride and K2, thus I need to demo other brands at demo days and for this I will need to contact the agents to make sure that they will bring the model/size. Experience showed, that they won't have the stuff I want to demo otherwise. Murphy.

My current Ride Fames M are 9cm/3.5In wide where the high-back is fixated, and 11.5cm/4.5In between the toe-straps. My K2 Contour women's size 8.5, men's 6.5 fit them perfectly, I have to squeeze them into the bindings. Since the boots are rather bulky for women's boots, I hope that they fit the probable wider fit of these men's bindings. Thus the main potential problem could be the high-back height. The rim of the boots is 27cm/10.6In.

If you know, that some of the listed models/sizes are very wide, or have a too high high-back and I thus can scratch them off the list, this would be very helpful.
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If spending abunch of coin, why not get some spark telsa and then also use them for splities
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Check out the Rome 390 Boss and the Rome Targas. Both have canted foot beds, rotatable high back, and super comfortable straps. The Targas are stiffer than the 390, but both have under wrap aluminum heel loops for that lateral (side to side) stiffness. They take some time to dial in but are very worth it once they are. Rome makes good quailty gear and they're warranty dept is second to none. Check em out.
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If spending abunch of coin, why not get some spark telsa and then also use them for splities
The idea is good. This very moment I was studying pucks for solid boards from links Tigre mentioned (Kits and spare parts - Splitboards Australia, Split to Solid Binding Pucks | Chair 2 Board Sports

Anyone has experience with them?

Split bindings are still a new field for me. Rented so far; but is on the shopping list. I had Blaze in M combined with the Contours. They fit well and were certainly responsive... but the straps are less padded than "normal" bindings. If in pow, I don't crank the straps too much. Thus a bit less strap comfort is no problem. But the Flagship spends a good amount of time on groomers, where I have the habit to crank as much as ratchets will endure. Also I'm not so sure about shock absorption...
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The idea is good. This very moment I was studying pucks for solid boards from links Tigre mentioned (Kits and spare parts - Splitboards Australia, Split to Solid Binding Pucks | Chair 2 Board Sports

Anyone has experience with them?
I think with the spark tesla bindings all you would need is 1 extra set of volie pucks to use on your solid board

and for the past couple years, spark straps are burton's diode (iirc) or burton made for sparks

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i was going to say the same thing. tesla + solid pucks. great bindings and 2kg weight savings when you fly.
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i did it with my burners

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i was going to say the same thing. tesla + solid pucks. great bindings and 2kg weight savings when you fly.
yes... the idea is getting more and more tempting, especially for the flight to AK. would also reduce the space needed.
what pucks are these? DIY or from a manufacturer? If DIY, what material did you use? Mind to share the measures? (brother has all these fancy carpenter/locksmith machines, could give it a try)
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yes... the idea is getting more and more tempting, especially for the flight to AK. would also reduce the space needed.
what pucks are these? DIY or from a manufacturer? If DIY, what material did you use? Mind to share the measures? (brother has all these fancy carpenter/locksmith machines, could give it a try)
you can buy the blanks from firstlight out here in oz or machine some up from delrin
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Here's the issue I see with doing split bindings on a freeride only non-splitboard. Dampening. Not an issue when you're splitting as you're searching for fresh. That's not the sole purpose of your Flagship.

Look into the Flow Prima or NOW Bindings.

I honestly wouldn't suggest mens bindings. That super tall highback is just going to get in your way and at your weight going for the bindings you're looking at is going to make things worse. You need a bit of play in the binding here and there to let yourself move around to get your pressure and weight in different spots on the board.

I think what you need to be looking into is not stiffer bindings, but bindings that inherently increase your edge to edge performance. Flow's do that with the triangle set up and Nows with the rockering frame.
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