I Have a 2014 lib tech skate Banana. I can get the Forces pretty cheap. I would rather the Cartels. Any suggestions?
This, exactly this.Both good bindings. It really comes down to fit and preference of feel/flex.
dude ur getting so worked up over an internet post. u haven't contributed anything to this thread but just try to call out other peoples post. read my post again and u will see I said both were good bindings and he'd be happy with either. im just saying that out of my own personal experience, the force would be better suited, but of course that is for my style of riding.Indeed, some real gems in his post:
- "forces would be so much more ideal on a skate banana than the cartels" - not just better (which is already debatable) but so much more ideal. Me thinks not...
- "flex pattern is better suited and will have a more natural flow" - Bullshit.
- "cartels are better suited for an all-mountain style of riding as apposed to freestyle" - Nope.
- "i know a lot of people that went with cartels and parts were falling apart after about the 50 day mark" - a lot of people, eh? One wonders then why there are so few people complaining about the longevity of Burton bindings here, on EL, etc. or why the return rates are considerably lower than for Union in our shops ...
This whole % of the baseplate thing touching the board is more marketing than real effect. It does something, but not as drastic as Union claims. And guess what, you get more board flex out of these Cartels you're talking about than the Force. ReFlex home slice.the baseplates on the forces have been designed so that only 20% of the base actually makes contact with the board, thus allowing for a more natural board flex. if the OP was riding EST cartels with an EST board, than maybe perhaps it could allow for a more natural flex but last time I checked a skate banana doesn't use EST.
For starters, are you really comparing numbered flexes between brands? And between bindings and boards on top of that? Good hell. Not to mention you clearly haven't actually ridden the Cartels or Malavitas. And you trust manufacturers websites too. Just winning. The Cartel is softer than the Malavita. This became pretty clear last season.*"cartels are better suited for an all-mountain style of riding as apposed to freestyle" - Nope. - im not saying that Cartels are no good for freestyle, just saying I prefer the forces in the park. and if it came down to it, I would choose a pair of malavitas (with a flex of 6, that better match with a board that flexes at a 5) for freestyle over cartels (that have a flex of 7).
Good for you. I had plenty. And our parts box was empty by January. I personally never had an issue with the 3 pairs I owned. As in they always stayed functional. There were things that broke, but nothing that made the bindings unrideable.I've had very few if any complaints at all about the union forces.