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Union Force vs Burton Cartels

I Have a 2014 lib tech skate Banana. I can get the Forces pretty cheap. I would rather the Cartels. Any suggestions?
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Union force. Cartels are nice too. But I've had lots of friends had problems with the ladders.
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I have had both but sold the cartels because they were too stiff for me. What kind of riding do you do? And what kind of stiffness are you looking for?

I ride the 2013 force and I love how it feels but toe strap is a pain in the ass to pop loose riding up to the lift. If you can deal with that, then that's what I would suggest.

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Yea. It's just the toe strap that is tough sometimes.

But once you figure it out. It's always easy.

Instead of just pulling up on the one side of the buckle with your thumb. Pull AND PUSH down on the other side of the buckle. Pops out easy every time!
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Yea. It's just the toe strap that is tough sometimes.

But once you figure it out. It's always easy.

Instead of just pulling up on the one side of the buckle with your thumb. Pull AND PUSH down on the other side of the buckle. Pops out easy every time!
Nice tip! I will definitely try that out. Thanks
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Use it like a lever. Works every time. Made go from being annoyed with the binding to loving it.
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Makes sense. Should have come with a "for dummies" booklet. lol
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I Have a 2014 lib tech skate Banana. I can get the Forces pretty cheap. I would rather the Cartels. Any suggestions?
Both good bindings. It really comes down to fit and preference of feel/flex. I had a problem with the Burton strap twisting as it tightened and stripping the ladder.
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Both good bindings. It really comes down to fit and preference of feel/flex.
This, exactly this.

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I would say Union Force. my friend got Cartels and they were too stiff for him, as i saw someone else say earlier.
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