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Old 10-08-2013, 07:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I stand by my post. Customs are junk.
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I stand by my post. Customs are junk.
Not arguing (although I disagree). Just curious why you think so/in what way you think that they are inferior?
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Just go to the store and look at them. They just feel cheap as shit. For not much more you can be in a pair of Cartels. They just seem like they were put out to hit a price point IMO.
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On what basis do you say that. "Lower end" Burton bindings esp. the Mission and Customs have pretty much the same solid construction (other than slightly lower end ratchets), just fewer features.

Hint: If dcsnow says the same thing, it is time to re-consider your post
this is a little more true for ladies bindings - citizens for example have toe straps not caps vs rest of the burton ladies line has caps and nicer straps (as well as better ratchets).
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Just go to the store and look at them. They just feel cheap as shit. For not much more you can be in a pair of Cartels. They just seem like they were put out to hit a price point IMO.
In a similar way the fit and finish of a Toyota Yaris is of a much lower quality than a Lexus LS, however both of them will likely last 300+ thousand kms without major repairs.

Obviously the more expensive bindings are better built, smoother ratchets, more comfortable straps, stiffer, etc. But I think the cheap 'ole Custom will likely last just about as long as the rest of the Burton line-up.

That said, I tried Customs and couldn't ride them. I'm too used to driving Lexus'!
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In a similar way the fit and finish of a Toyota Yaris is of a much lower quality than a Lexus LS, however both of them will likely last 300+ thousand kms without major repairs.

Obviously the more expensive bindings are better built, smoother ratchets, more comfortable straps, stiffer, etc. But I think the cheap 'ole Custom will likely last just about as long as the rest of the Burton line-up.

That said, I tried Customs and couldn't ride them. I'm too used to driving Lexus'!
maybe that's my problem
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maybe that's my problem
If that's the case I know exactly what you mean. Bought a used board with 2012 Customs on it. Took it for a cruise and just found they were too soft, ratchets too clunky, and straps too hurty! lol

But as for build quality, I think they'd be fine for a noob. Past a first setup though I'd go for something stiffer and more comfy.
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In a similar way the fit and finish of a Toyota Yaris is of a much lower quality than a Lexus LS, however both of them will likely last 300+ thousand kms without major repairs.

Obviously the more expensive bindings are better built, smoother ratchets, more comfortable straps, stiffer, etc. But I think the cheap 'ole Custom will likely last just about as long as the rest of the Burton line-up.

That said, I tried Customs and couldn't ride them. I'm too used to driving Lexus'!
Completely agree with that - that was exactly my point.

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If that's the case I know exactly what you mean. Bought a used board with 2012 Customs on it. Took it for a cruise and just found they were too soft, ratchets too clunky, and straps too hurty! lol

But as for build quality, I think they'd be fine for a noob. Past a first setup though I'd go for something stiffer and more comfy.
Again, exactly that - no question that the lower end bindings have inferior appearance/tech/features/comfort (exception: 12-13 and 13-14 Missions which still have my favorite Burton highback), but there is nothing that leads me to believe that they are of inferior construction/production quality.

BTW, didn't Shaun White ride Customs on occasion?

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this is a little more true for ladies bindings - citizens for example have toe straps not caps vs rest of the burton ladies line has caps and nicer straps (as well as better ratchets).
Yes, good point.

BTW, I believe the Citizen toe straps are also meant to be two way (over the top or cap) capable, but they sure do not look impressive. Same for the Stilleto and Scribe - slightly better, but still not Gettagrip caps.
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