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Old 12-09-2013, 11:49 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Sounds like a typical case of using the forward lean as a 'crutch' to compensate for lack of knee bend. You should probably work on flexing your knees more without the 'help' of the highback.
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EDIT: What I meant is that people can use it in the beginning when learning. So it is example of how the highback can affect toeside turns. I also ride with 0 lean on my 150 cm NS Evo and can lay a carve down just fine. I ride my cartels with F2-3, and have never ever needed anything more. Not to mention I have my CASI Level 2, which isn't the be all end all of riding ... but it is at least some confirmation I am not completely inept.

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Old 12-19-2013, 04:21 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Ya, I love the binding. It is just a minor difference from the 2012 I have noticed is all. My opinion is open still, I have been playing around with the forward lean. I also admit they have a different feel. The straps are so comfortable they don't even feel like they are done up. My first few runs I kept checking them to be sure! So part of it is that I need to get used to them.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:29 PM   #113 (permalink)
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It's better. Seriously, you don't even feel it. I wrote a mate's nug with 2013 Genesis' on and it was nice but the new one is just a little bit nicer.
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Old 12-25-2013, 07:39 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Not sure if someone pointed this out, but the double take ratchet and ladders also are meant to catch sooner then the older style. Some times you have trouble getting that first "click". Well not with those. As soon you get them in they catch and you can start cranking. And if you don't believe me try it your self. Slide the ladder in and it will click before it starts coming out the other side of the ratchet. That tech is badass.
yep, 10 mm in... a lil tip n u get full pene in no time. genesis, the alpha...the omega
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Old 12-25-2013, 07:48 PM   #115 (permalink)
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yep, 10 mm in... a lil tip n u get full pene in no time. genesis, the alpha...the omega
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I agree. However I've noticed that once tightened, they often need readjusting/retightening after the first run.
As a follow on review to previous comments:

Yup, ver comfy!

However I agree that they feel loose /skatey when first on them. The observations thAt the high back doesn't quite feel engaged are accurate. I'm still trying to work out if this is just the feel or if the responsiveness suffers from it.
I'm hoping its an acquired taste abs after a few more hours on the hill I'll be head over heels (pun nt intended )
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:22 PM   #116 (permalink)
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If you need a little more highback response, add a little forward lean. They come with 0 forward lean and can be adjusted quickly to add little more leverage and response.

I rode them the past to days and they were really awesome. They have a unique feel but it becomes lovable very quickliy.
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:24 PM   #117 (permalink)
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If you need a little more highback response, add a little forward lean. They come with 0 forward lean and can be adjusted quickly to add little more leverage and response.

I rode them the past to days and they were really awesome. They have a unique feel but it becomes lovable very quickliy.
Interesting... Will give it a bash. I had them on f2 so did have a little...
Unique in what sense? Curious
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:05 PM   #118 (permalink)
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To me the high back feels like it has a small cushioned area before it's fully engaged. So it feels soft on small movements and bumps but once I dug in it really pushed back. So I had to get comfortable and use to the cushion feel and trust that it wouldn't just wash out. Forward lean might take up some of that cushioning and give you more instant response if that what you want. I personally like that soft yet responsive feel. Well all ride different tho.
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:13 PM   #119 (permalink)
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I think for dynamic riding n all dem minuut pressure adjustments the hi backs works out. but ye, there is a learning curve.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:07 PM   #120 (permalink)
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It was mentioned earlier about fitting the Malavita AutoCant beds on the Genesis. I have the 2013 Genesis and ordered the Malavita beds from Burton customer service. Got them in today and it's a direct fit. Not sure if it'd work on the 2014s....but I don't see why not....




Now my bindings are true Frankenstein status. Medium sized Genesis bindings, large Cartel toe straps, and medium Malavita Cantbeds.
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