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That is the perfect way to describe the Genesis. My next response was going to be along those lines. I think I will be sticking to using the Genesis on most of my boards for quite a while unless Burton does something stupid to them of course haha. I'm not sold yet on the new hammock strap and the react straps on the '13s are great so i'm perfectly happy with my 2013's.
Do you miss the canting at all?
Think I'm gunna go for the green machine genesis myself.
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I rode the 2014's last year. They're pretty nice. Def as supportive as cartels but way more comfy. However, the cartels are plenty awesome and I choose those just because they're cheaper
Sound sweet. Not too flimsy and soft the high backs then?
I'm a fan of cartels so an deciding between the two... Got 2011/2012 cartels so considering getting 2014 cartels or splashing on the genesis.
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Sound sweet. Not too flimsy and soft the high backs then?
I'm a fan of cartels so an deciding between the two... Got 2011/2012 cartels so considering getting 2014 cartels or splashing on the genesis.
2013-14 Cartels have a much softer and shorter highback than the 2011-12 version, so you might as well go all in and try the Genesis.
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2013-14 Cartels have a much softer and shorter highback than the 2011-12 version, so you might as well go all in and try the Genesis.
Was thinking that myself. Plus the colour way looks great on a proto.
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Sound sweet. Not too flimsy and soft the high backs then?
I'm a fan of cartels so an deciding between the two... Got 2011/2012 cartels so considering getting 2014 cartels or splashing on the genesis.
I didn't like the 12 cartel highbacks. too stiff. they fixed them in 13 so there's a touch more give torsionally. Now they're sweet.
Basically, the difference between the cartels and genesis is in the highback - do you want to feel the highback or not? With the genesis you don't feel the highback yet have the support.
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I didn't like the 12 cartel highbacks. too stiff. they fixed them in 13 so there's a touch more give torsionally. Now they're sweet.
Basically, the difference between the cartels and genesis is in the highback - do you want to feel the highback or not? With the genesis you don't feel the highback yet have the support.
Hm didn't think of it like that. Thinking about it, there's no real need to feel the high back? ? Sounds like the genesis win it on comfort. and yep. The cartels in 2012 felt pretty stiff to me (giggity)
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Do you miss the canting at all?
Think I'm gunna go for the green machine genesis myself.
To be honest, i don't miss the canting. It was nice and all but its not a necessity for me. Granted i don't have knee pain issues at all, the genesis are super comfortable without canting. And a friend of mine who has knee pain occasionally due to being older and riding for a while has no issues with the genesis and actually prefers the comfort the binding offers over the canting of other bindings.
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I keep seeing the word "comfort" thrown around and I've never thought to use this word to describe bindings. Yes boots, but not bindings. Maybe "lack of pressure points" but I just don't see how, if a binding is fit and adjusted appropriately, it can be any more comfortable than another similar binding.
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WEll thank goodness that's not what this thread is about
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The highback does feel flimsy. It reminds me of the highback that Burton used on the older Triads. Lots of people loved that binding (including myself), but that highback was infamous for breaking. Now, I've had a pair of Triads on my Charlie Slasher for a couple of seasons with no issues, but then again, they were a $50 CL pickup, not a $300+ retail buy. Burton isn't a stupid company and they have to know that the Triad highback wasn't durable and I'm sure they wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

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