I like them a lot more than the cartels. I think the design is better allowing for a more flexible "feeling" binding while not compromising responsiveness. I used to ride Co2s and these Genesis are just as responsive in my mind but achieved through design rather than just a stiff ass binding. I ride pipe, park, steeps and this is the first time I feel like all of this EST bologna is finally paying off. I finally notice a more responsive ride all the way around without feeling like Im riding an old bomber setup. Get them you'll notice the upgrade.