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Old 12-30-2013, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So am away in the Swiss alps (yey) and whilst it's been bluebird skies every da which is amazing... The snow conditions are a little sketchy.

Question: is it wrong to kind of lift the back leg slightly when transitioning into a turn? Particularly when getting around a mogul, often with I've after so need to get the turn round in time, I've noticed myself doing it.
Doesn't feel particularly wrong but I've heard people talk badly of this kind of 'leg ruddering action'

Note, I only do this on these kind of runs, normally I can carve pretty smoothly and transition fairly smoothly.

Thanks guys. Will get a vid if my buddy brings his camera out.
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So am away in the Swiss alps (yey) and whilst it's been bluebird skies every da which is amazing... The snow conditions are a little sketchy.

Question: is it wrong to kind of lift the back leg slightly when transitioning into a turn? Particularly when getting around a mogul, often with I've after so need to get the turn round in time, I've noticed myself doing it.
Doesn't feel particularly wrong but I've heard people talk badly of this kind of 'leg ruddering action'

Note, I only do this on these kind of runs, normally I can carve pretty smoothly and transition fairly smoothly.

Thanks guys. Will get a vid if my buddy brings his camera out.
What you are describing sounds like a kick turn, which is a method also used on steep pitches to quickly switch edges. If that's the case then there's no problem. I would recommend avoiding moguls though, you'll have more fun without them.
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So am away in the Swiss alps (yey) and whilst it's been bluebird skies every da which is amazing... The snow conditions are a little sketchy.

Question: is it wrong to kind of lift the back leg slightly when transitioning into a turn? Particularly when getting around a mogul, often with I've after so need to get the turn round in time, I've noticed myself doing it.
Doesn't feel particularly wrong but I've heard people talk badly of this kind of 'leg ruddering action'

Note, I only do this on these kind of runs, normally I can carve pretty smoothly and transition fairly smoothly.

Thanks guys. Will get a vid if my buddy brings his camera out.
Legit turn shape for steeps and moguls. You're all good.
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So does the back of the board come off the snow when turning?
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What you are describing sounds like a kick turn, which is a method also used on steep pitches to quickly switch edges. If that's the case then there's no problem. I would recommend avoiding moguls though, you'll have more fun without them.
Thanks, good to hear. Felt like it was working but had thoughts it could be "ruddering".
Yeah I mostly do, but the slopes haven't been groomed recently so bit stuck!
A blue/red run with moguls can still be fun as provides loads of jumps.

Fingers crossed for a snow dump and I'll get off piste asap!

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Legit turn shape for steeps and moguls. You're all good.
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So does the back of the board come off the snow when turning?
The way I was doing it, the back edge was just slightly coming off to allow it to swing around quickly. Used to do it on skis so felt like an alright thing to do
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i feel like a lot of "rules" on riding like keeping your shoulders squared, initiating turns with your forward leg, slight forward lean, etc. go out the window once you start hitting moguls and, to a lesser extent, steeps.

a few bits of advice an instructor once gave me: you're in less control any time your board is in the air, so you ideally want to avoid it, but it'll happen. the next best thing is to above all else, keep your head level by pumping your knees.
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