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Old 01-01-2014, 10:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Cheap wax on sintered base?

I dont know if you guys consider this cheap wax but im talking about the Express Wax | TOKO Wax & Care. I used to use it on my old board that had an extruded base. Is it a good idea to apply this kind of wax to a sintered base?
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Rub on wax is absolutely useless in anything but a race. It is gone in half a run and is bad for the environment. Save your money for the strip club. It's a better investment.

Stick to iron on all temp or cold temp wax. It's all you need.
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I dont know if you guys consider this cheap wax but im talking about the Express Wax | TOKO Wax & Care. I used to use it on my old board that had an extruded base. Is it a good idea to apply this kind of wax to a sintered base?
That wax will actually turn your sintered base into extruded. I don't think you want that to happen.
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Sintered base needs to be waxed more often.
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Sintered base needs to be waxed more often.
you should get your story straight bro

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Old 01-02-2014, 09:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Great question.

Sintered is not one thing. Extruded is not one thing. There are many varieties of each. Sinterred bases (depending on the base makeup) have different wax consumption properties as do Extruded bases. There are many grades of each base type. Just calling a base sinterred or extruded tells you very little. All benefit from regular waxing.

Essentially you are dealing with pellet melt-and-sheet-roll vs. pellet crushing. Those are the rough processes. However, simply calling a base "sintered" (for instance) without taking into account the details of that sintered product tells you very little. Sintered bases range from inexpensive to very expensive. Some hold significantly more wax than others and often lose that wax more quickly. Some are more brittle than others. Some boards use custom compounds and at times those are excellent and at other times they fail. That is not to mention various compounds and inclusions. The same is true for "extruded".
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Not going to tell you how to spend your money.

You want to use rub on waxes, then for a couple of runs you will likely be faster than the guy that does nothing. However, in just a few runs, the money you rubbed on your board will be gone.

On the other hand, a hot wax with a good old fashion iron and a bit of time scraping will provide returns for a number of days in the right conditions. A little more time required, yes, but certainly a great return on your dollar.

This applies, albeit differently, on both Extruded and Sintered bases

It's your money.
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Sintered base needs to be waxed more often.
That doesn't make sense. Sintered bases are known for holding wax better, not worse.
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Why do people even consider rub on waxing as an option?
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That doesn't make sense. Sintered bases are known for holding wax better, not worse.
The facts:

Extruded

More durable, cheaper to make, holds less wax, not as porous, slower than maintained sintered base. Faster than an unwaxed sintered base.


Sintered

Waxed sintered board you are filling the pores with the wax, the plastic is "absorbing" the wax. Sintered board not waxed starts to dry out, generally along your edges, starts to turn whitish. No wax porous base = slower.

Speed of sintered base depends more on it being waxed.

So sintered bases need to be waxed more, more, and more often!!!!!
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