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blackbeard 01-28-2014 08:15 PM

Should I get new board and bindings?
My current setup is a Ride Machete 162W, K2 Company bindings in XL.

I just went from Salomon Dialogues in size 12 to Ride Hi-Phys in size 10.5. In addition to shaving off size due to the smaller boot size, the Ride Hi-Phys have a significantly smaller footprint because my Dialogues are 4 years old.

This had led me to reconsider my current setup and if I should get a non-wide board and smaller bindings. I can ride the board fine, but I'm just wondering if I'm not maximizing my edge to edge quickness by staying with a wider board.

I'm considering a 159-160 regular width board and M/L bindings depending on the manufacturer. Your input is appreciated.

vajohn 01-28-2014 08:30 PM

You definitely do not need a wide board in size 10.5, especially with newer style boots that have smaller footprints. You will probably appreciate a narrower board with the smaller boots depending on how you ride. If you ride park all the time, it is not going to matter. If you enjoy freeriding, you should probably go ahead and upgrade. The bindings might still be ok, but probably sloppy. Size l is going to fit better than xl I would imagine.

Riley212 01-28-2014 08:33 PM

how did you downsize boots so much? where the others way to big?

yes you could benefit from a normal width board.

blackbeard 01-28-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Riley212 (Post 1482345)
how did you downsize boots so much? where the others way to big?

yes you could benefit from a normal width board.

The Salomons fit me fine, but I do notice some heel lift on choppy stuff. To be honest, I'm surprised myself that I fit in a 10.5 boot. I tried on so many boots in the past month and I could fit in anything from a 10.5 to a 11.5, just depends on the boot and who made them. The Rides are really comfortable and when I flex forward my heel is held nice and tight.

Now to pick a board and binding.....any suggestions?

vajohn 01-28-2014 08:43 PM

What type of riding do you do most and where? Budget?

I probably could have squeezed into 11.5 Burton Hail boots after they pack out while I pretty much always wear 13 or 12.5 sneakers. The new tech on boots is great for people with bigger feet.

Riley212 01-28-2014 08:59 PM

K2 Happy hour 161, is best bro, is best.

But seriously here is a pretty comprehensive list of the best all around freestyle boards this year, take your pick, they are all top notch

blackbeard 01-28-2014 09:01 PM

I ride mainly on the East coast, but make it out West at least once a season. I put in ~10 days a season but want to get that up to 20.

I would classify myself an an intermediate rider that can link turns decently, and is trying to work on hitting natural kickers and practicing riding switch. I never hit the park and don't plan to anytime soon. I'm not bombing it down the mountain, although I do like to pick up speed as I gain more confidence.

The Ride Machete flat board was friendly and easy to maneuver, but sometimes it feels stiff like if I want to get air or just press it, although I'm sure my technique has a lot do with that.

My budget is fairly flexible, but I do like a bargain (who doesn't?!)

vajohn 01-28-2014 09:47 PM

I'm sure the happy hour is a great board. But for an ice coast all mountain board I'd suggest a Burton Custom or maybe even a Custom x (as an intermediate rider you'll grow into an x if you plan on riding a lot more and want to start riding fast soon--it will also discourage you from forming bad habits). You won't be doing any presses on a custom x, but tons of pop and great riding either direction. Any other similar all mountain camber deck for that style of riding on ice coast will be good. A camber/rocker hybrid will be fine also and better when you go out west or hit natural snow. If you run into some serious powder when you go out west, you could always demo a powder board or get by with your bindings set way back.

m0rph3us 01-28-2014 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by blackbeard (Post 1482497)
The Ride Machete flat board was friendly and easy to maneuver, but sometimes it feels stiff like if I want to get air or just press it, although I'm sure my technique has a lot do with that.

Yeah, I've got it in a 157W and it's definitely a stiff board (the fact it's wide doesn't really help either). Great for riding around the mountain, but pretty hard work for air or pressing.

You won't need a wide board with size 10.5 shoes. I'm size 12, and I've recently gotten an NS Proto HD 157. Didn't go wide because the footprint reduction on most newer boots (I wear Burton Rulers) means that you can generally get away with it as long as you're not riding something really narrow and not attempting to deep carve too much.

vajohn 01-28-2014 10:30 PM

Also, I don't think the custom or custom x have changed much since 2009, so you might be able to find a deal on an older model if you look around. All mountain boards are going to be stiff. I'm not sure, you do like doing presses and stuff but don't like park anymore? You're not going to be able to press a good all mountain board. If you don't like stiff, you're still into presses and stuff and like that, and want more of a freestyle board that will still get you around, I'd suggest a k2 parkstar, www or something like that. You could get one of those for around $200 new. Parkstar is really fun for presses and screwing around. I can butter the crap out of that board. There are all kinds of boards out there to fit all sorts of budgets. I've seen tons of great deals around lately looking for a board for my nephew and and a new board for myself.

-Also just saw a k2 fastplant 157 or 160 for $230 one site I've been searching lately, which might be something for you

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