I got a pair of Vans Cirros recently. Due to the size of my feet (14) and the remoteness of any real boot fitter with a snowboard boot stock, doing the suggested 'try at least 10 pairs on' isn't feasible. The boots had to be mail-ordered, people speak highly of the Cirros, I saw them on sale, and I dove.
They're great boots, very comfortable, and just stiff enough.
But I'm getting heel lift. It's not bad (1/2 inch maybe), and my heel doesn't lift when I do toeside turns, but it lifts on the uhh.. lifts when the board is hanging from my foot, when I skate, and from time to time while I'm walking.
I've put in the red J-bars (larger volume) and it's not helping much. I also have custom hard plastic orthotic inserts, made by a podiatrist from foot molds, that I wear in my street shoes but not in my snowboard boots. When I put these in (I don't remove the original footbed) it takes up a good deal of room and it virtually eliminates the heel lift. However I'm pretty concerned that they are hard plastic - they don't have any cushioning to speak of. So I'd be relying on the stock footbed underneath my orthotic insert for padding. Another problem is the material of my sock slides quite smoothly over the surface of the insert, so any subtle movements lead to a movement of the sole of my foot.
Does anyone else out there wear similar inserts in their boots? Have you had problems with injury? Impressions on performance?
Additionally, the liners are heat moldable EVA. Should the stock EVA footbed be removed from the liner during the heating process? Should I take out the J-bars during the heat molding process? It seems to me that heat molding with the J-bars in would lead to the liner molding and compressing around the bar, thus defeating the purpose of the J-bar altogether.
The problem seems to be that I have too much room in the tongue of the boot, due to small ankles, and it's not holding my foot securely in. Anyone use this 'eliminator tongue' thing? Impressions on performance? How much excess room does it eliminate?
I'm open to any advice.