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Old 02-20-2014, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm 5'10" and 165lbs size 9 boots.

Last year, I had a Nidecker Ultralight 163 I it worked well for me in everything. I think with the camrock profile it definitely rode small...it was also not very stiff.

This year I've only been on a Rossignol XV Magtek 163. Has a similar hybrid camber profile and effective edge but is a lot stiffer and I remember at the beginning of the season thinking it wasn't as nimble in the trees as I would have liked. After 25 days on it, I don't really think about that anymore and I'm still liking to board in general.

I'm considering a Flagship (Carbon in particular) but am debating on size between the 161 and 164. In the end, I must admit that I spend most of time at my resort (Fernie, BC) so am thinking the 161 is the safe way to go for riding trees and bumps. But then I start thinking the extra edge would be nice for carving and do even better on cat trips or deep days.

Can't get demos on a board like this (around here anyways) so for the cost, its a bit of a gamble and I thought I'd check here to see if anyone had first hand experience. Maybe even comparing to other boards? I've demo'd a BSOD recently and could compare to that as well.

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Old 02-20-2014, 01:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm 5'10" and 165lbs size 9 boots.

Last year, I had a Nidecker Ultralight 163 I it worked well for me in everything. I think with the camrock profile it definitely rode small...it was also not very stiff.

This year I've only been on a Rossignol XV Magtek 163. Has a similar hybrid camber profile and effective edge but is a lot stiffer and I remember at the beginning of the season thinking it wasn't as nimble in the trees as I would have liked. After 25 days on it, I don't really think about that anymore and I'm still liking to board in general.

I'm considering a Flagship (Carbon in particular) but am debating on size between the 161 and 164. In the end, I must admit that I spend most of time at my resort (Fernie, BC) so am thinking the 161 is the safe way to go for riding trees and bumps. But then I start thinking the extra edge would be nice for carving and do even better on cat trips or deep days.

Can't get demos on a board like this (around here anyways) so for the cost, its a bit of a gamble and I thought I'd check here to see if anyone had first hand experience. Maybe even comparing to other boards? I've demo'd a BSOD recently and could compare to that as well.

Thanks

I'm 5'9" and 150lbs. 9.5 boot.

I've owned the Carbon Flagship 161 last year and this year I sized down to the 158. I prefer the 158 over the 161 in every single way.

I was worried about losing float and the like. However, I didn't have that problem. At your weight I'd go with the 161.
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WAIT! Wait til you try some of my crazy boards. I had the Prior Khyber 165 out in DEEP powder at Kicking Horse this weekend, it was lots of fun. Tons of float, fun in the trees, very flickable board.

The Virus 160 was more flickable, but that may be because I've got it setup with even more setback than reference stance.

What stance do you ride? We may do KH or Fernie again next weekend. What is Fernie like right now?
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input binarypie. Curious actually, could you guess how much static camber is on your carbon flagship?

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WAIT! Wait til you try some of my crazy boards. I had the Prior Khyber 165 out in DEEP powder at Kicking Horse this weekend, it was lots of fun. Tons of float, fun in the trees, very flickable board.

The Virus 160 was more flickable, but that may be because I've got it setup with even more setback than reference stance.

What stance do you ride? We may do KH or Fernie again next weekend. What is Fernie like right now?
Have you ridden a Flagship poutanen?

I'm currently setback a long way on the XV. Likely 35mm or more...I'm beyond the reference I think. Stance is 22.5" wide, goofy, +18 front and 0/+5 back. I'm looking for a single board for everything. I feel like I can't consider a powder specific board like that Prior as they just don't do well enough all round to kill a quiver.

I demo'd a 2014 BSOD this weekend and didn't think it stacked up to the XV for how I ride. Felt too soft and the stance was too centered for me which made the nose feel even weaker.

The Virus certainly interests me from your description but just seems like too much of a pain to source...also makes the Carbon Flagship look cheap

Fernie was hard to complain about this weekend. Fresh snow everyday and big dumps waiting on Sunday and Monday mornings. My friend at KH said there was a 45min for the gondola on Saturday? He was happy with getting in 5 runs for the day...I took 5 lifts before 9am in knee deep pow on Sunday morning and I think I spent 10min in line once?

Still snowing in Fernie most of the week...looks a little cold this weekend though. I'm in Fernie Saturday. Heading the Kicking Horse Sunday for my daughter's race but likely won't have too much time to ride

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I don't have my board here in the city but i'll take some photos for you this weekend.
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Thanks.

For comparison sake, my XV has likely 5mm about while the BSOD I demo'd had maybe 2mm.
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Not to thread jack, but what bindings do you run on the XV?
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Thanks. Was curious since I'm looking for bindings for my Experience. Rear entry isn't my cup of tea these days.
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After my excitment for my wooden Flagship, hubby got a Carbon 164 @ 190lbs. His comment: been waiting for such a board for 20y . Since it's still pretty new, I haven't had the chance yet to try it... he wont share it yet
But he has similar impressions about it being "bit of work" in bumps as I have with mine. However, so much fun to ride pow and charge good groomer.
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