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TooNice 03-13-2014 05:05 PM

Shopping for my very first board
 
Hello, I am a enthusiastic newbie who have been riding for two weeks in total including 8 hours of group lessons. At the moment, I am still looking for my perfect boots, an effort hindered by the fact that I am a guy with small feet. I know that I should start to build the system starting with the boots, followed by bindings and finally the board, but that hasn't stopped me from looking about bindings and boards while I am shopping for boots. Here's my profile:

Weight: 60kg (132lb) lately, but usually lighter. That'd be naked :laugh:
Boot size: 24cm (6 US M, 7 US F)
Riding style: Newbie :laugh: I still have to improve my fundamental skills a lot more before I talk about specialisation, but I think that I am more interested in ground tricks like buttering, and jumps rather than bombing runs. Also, right now I do groomed runs exclusively but once I get the basics down proper, I'd be more interested in park than deep powder. I will be a very happy person if I can land a 360 one day. I am interested in learning to ride switch early.
Age: Late 20s
Budget: Flexible
Your location of riding: Japan (Nagano, Niigata, Hokkaido)

Based on my "homework", I like the *idea* of an all mountain free style, true twin, with a hybrid profile (particularly Rocker-Camber-Rocker).. but then, what do I know about snowboards right now :laugh:

After spending quite a bit of time on The Good Ride, I've short-listed the following boards more or less in order of interest:

- Yes Jackpot 2014 (seems to tick the boxes, but I don't see it mentioned often).
- Gnu B-Pro C2 BTX (since I need women's shoes, I figured that I should not rule out a women's board. Excellent stats on The Good Ride, but I am not sure how the Camber-Rocker-Camber compares to the Rocker-Camber-Rocker of the Jackpot)
- Lib Tech TRS 2014 XC2 BTX (I like the "stats" on The Good Ride, but I think that I've read in one of the thread here that Lib Tech boards are not ideal for beginners?)
- Yes Basic (I see this one recommended more often than the Jackpot, but I am not sure if being a directional twin will make it a tiny bit harder to learn switch).
- Burton Custom Flying V (the profile is pretty funky, but I am worried that it might be a bit harder to handle in tougher conditions)

I don't expect anyone to have tried all those boards, especially as I've thrown a ladies board into the mix, but I'd still be interested to hear some opinions. And more specifically, I'd like to know more about how a Rocker/Camber/Rocker profile compares to a Camber/Rocker/Camber profile.

Thanks :)

emc19 03-13-2014 11:02 PM

I dont know bro but I'd go all out on the boots right now. With that shoe size maybe check the kids or girls section? No but really if I was going back and getting my first board again I'd def invest in good boots off the bat. You can keep the boots for a while but I can guarantee you'll out grow the board after a season.

Once you get your self fitted with some good boots I'd find what ever board/binding set up you can get a good deal on. I'd go used on the board with the intention of picking something else up shortly down the road. Then as your skills develop you'll be able to tell what you really want in a board (flex, profile, length....) and you can get what you really want.

ridinbend 03-13-2014 11:19 PM

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I'd be more interested in park than deep powder.

Really? :icon_scratch:

TooNice 03-14-2014 01:44 AM

Is it strange? ^^;

I am taking into account the people I have ridden with so far (in my last trip, there were are mix of skier and snowboarder, we mostly did groomed runs, and the most experience snowboarder went for the park on the day the others rested early).

But rest assured that I will go all out on whatever boots fits best. It took me a week to realise the importance of well fitting boots (after an instructor noticed that the boots I rented were too big/loose) and it was only I changed boots that I was really starting to enjoy the sport :)

ridinbend 03-14-2014 02:22 AM

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Is it strange? ^^;

I am taking into account the people I have ridden with so far (in my last trip, there were are mix of skier and snowboarder, we mostly did groomed runs, and the most experience snowboarder went for the park on the day the others rested early).

But rest assured that I will go all out on whatever boots fits best. It took me a week to realise the importance of well fitting boots (after an instructor noticed that the boots I rented were too big/loose) and it was only I changed boots that I was really starting to enjoy the sport :)

I don't profess to be a Japan know-it-all, but in my limited understanding, we westerners vacation there to shred the epic pow. I mean, I don't think I even know a boarder that doesn't dream of shredding pow. I moved from the beach to a mountain town to ride pow. I can't speak for everybody but yeah choosing park over pow is strange to me when you have some of the most premier pow at your fingertips. Either way enjoy your experience snowboarding. Cheers.

Also, with hybrid boards, it will be a long time before you will be able to appreciate the differences in crc and rcr. Having rocker at all will make your learning experience more enjoyable as it allows for a less catchy ride than a full camber board. If you do end up riding mostly groomed runs, just get something that has a hybrid rocker and camber. Maybe even a skate banana with full rocker. Either way, as a novice, whatever board you buy, right or wrong, you will learn how to ride it and progress. It will be the board you buy in a season or two that will be more important to your progression.

TooNice 03-14-2014 03:56 AM

Ah, I did not realise that. As a kid (that'd be 20 years ago), I used to live in Swiss alps and skied every season (100 days per) for about 5-6 years (not realising how lucky I was), but I honestly do not remember how the snow there compared to the snow here now.

I do know that when going on to ski resort with the family, we don't do much powder as the young ones still get their skis stuck in it, so there is some practical reason to it. To be fair, we don't exactly do park either though ^^;

All the boards I have short-listed are hybrids. Would you say that some of the boards I have listed are easier/harder for a beginner though? I am sure I can still progress with rentals too, but if I am putting down the money, it would be nice if it's a board that would take me from beginner to intermediate if not beyond :)

Thanks.

TooNice 03-15-2014 02:09 PM

After lots of reading (demo-ing not really an option), I am pretty close to pulling the trigger on a 149cm Yes Jackpot. The amount of reviews/people with experience with this board seems limited, but from the little that I was able to find, it is a pretty versatile board and will let me try/learn various things.

The main concern I have, is the 248mm width, as I will be wearing 6 US Men boots. Going by one of the chart I've found (Snowboard Sizing & Buyer's Guide | evo), for boots size under 7, I ought to go for a narrow 240-245mm board.

Is this a big deal that warrants scrapping the idea and looking into women's boards or is it fine? Thanks :)

TooNice 08-10-2014 04:08 AM

...and I am back. In the end, I am pretty much set on the new YES Emoticon. Being new in YES's line up for 2014-2015, it is untested, but on paper, it seems to match what I was looking for, namely:

- True twin
- Rocker/Camber/Rocker
- Women' board - so it should resolve my concern about width

For the price I will probably have to pay (I want the board in time for the start of the season), it would have been to have sintered based, but it is something I am willing to do without.

But the next big question is size. I am hesitating between 146cm and 149cm.

I should point out that since I started the thread, my (naked) weight has gone down from 63.5kg to 60kg. And I have an eventual goal of 57kg (I have started boxing recreationally, and it has done good to my physiques and simultaneously given me a weight goal). One thing I am not sure about the size / weight guidelines, is whether they are based on a person's weight naked or fully geared.

Anticrobotic 08-10-2014 06:44 AM

Hello there,

The first thing I'd like to throw in is that as a male you'l (probably) have more muscles than a female of your weight. For that, plus the deepness of the Japanese powness, perhaps you should consider going longer rather than shorter?

neni 08-10-2014 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TooNice (Post 1611969)
Is it strange? ^^;

Yes, it definitely is :)
As soon as you'll have figured out the basics and you have surfed your first pow slope, you will be addicted, I'm positive. Not surprised to hear that your family wasn't into pow over here; if you don't have skis suitable for pow and good skills, pow is pita with skis, even worse than with an unsuitable board. Anyway... I think you go the right way trying to get a board that suits your park n groomer aims best for now. There's no board which will be great for everything. The moment you will begin to aim at riding pow, you can get a second, specialized board for that (in a faaaar longer size than you're considering now for your fist one).

You've done your homework well. At your boot size, you will need a narrow board <245mm. Can't help with board recommendations for your current board, not my field of experience. Just a hint... be careful with the good ride reviews. The site is good to get a basic overview cos it lists a huge selection of boards, but the reviews are a mess. Can't say if all of them, but some I've read are just wrong (copy paste from a different model, put on the wrong place).


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