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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 02-26-2009, 05:35 AM
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Burton Cartels vs Union Forces

This is going to be my first set up with a Burton Custom 158, im a all mountain rider, catching airs here and there with a little bit park/jib. Mainly on blacks and blues. Im stuck between these 2 bindings...

Also with the Forces what size would I get with a boot size 10.5

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their both good really good bindings, iv got the cartels and there great. cartels would be easyer cause u wont have to get a 3-hole for your unions before u can use them. but other then that its pretty much your a solid choise.
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This is going to be my first set up with a Burton Custom 158, im a all mountain rider, catching airs here and there with a little bit park/jib. Mainly on blacks and blues. Im stuck between these 2 bindings...

Also with the Forces what size would I get with a boot size 10.5
I have almost the exact setup at the moment, Custom 54 with Cartel bindings. I haven't tried the Force but I love the Cartels. They're very responsive.
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cartels are nice, they have insane amounts of forward lean though. if i was picking between the 2 it would be the forces for sure.

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So if I choose to go with Unions I would have to get 3 bolt pattern base plates? Where could I get these? Also what size would I get for a boot size 10.5?
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So if I choose to go with Unions I would have to get 3 bolt pattern base plates? Where could I get these? Also what size would I get for a boot size 10.5?
l/xl and alls you have to do is call the usa capita rep and they will mail you them free. do it whenever you order the bindings so you dont have to wait.

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l/xl and alls you have to do is call the usa capita rep and they will mail you them free. do it whenever you order the bindings so you dont have to wait.


Cool thanks for the quick replys
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Forces, your legs will thank you. Stock forward lean on Burtons is insane. If they didn't have that it would be a differenst story but...

Its been a while since I've tried to put non Burton bindings on the 3 hole system, but if I remember and if the Forces come with the plates my Contacts did then you should be fine. It's a double slot disc, no actuall holes.

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i have a 08 burton custom 158 with union forces. love my setup! the forces should come with universal baseplates which work with the 3 hole system.
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forces feel better, but they're pretty heavy. i always think burton bindings are cheap because they still have fiberglass heel cups n no dampening on the base like most other companies have now. i would suggest the forces, unless u really care bout weight, then get the cartels
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